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xlskubectl – a spreadsheet to control your Kubernetes cluster

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Re: xlskubectl – a spreadsheet to control your Kubernetes cluster

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Hey, I'm the person behind this project. Thank you for sharing this. Many people have reached out to improve it, and I might come back with a Jira version one day.

A Jira version. Children look under the bed afraid of finding monsters. Monsters look under the bed afraid of finding you.

Re: xlskubectl – a spreadsheet to control your Kubernetes cluster

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Better than yaml. Spreadsheets are underused as an UI. Every time you embed a table component in your app you probably wouldn’t complain about it being one.

I’m developing an app right now which uses a spreadsheet as its principal UI. It will be a painful process to gradually wean the users off of that.

Re: xlskubectl – a spreadsheet to control your Kubernetes cluster

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post #22

Better than yaml. Spreadsheets are underused as an UI. Every time you embed a table component in your app you probably wouldn’t complain about it being one.

The problem with spreadsheets vs regular tables is that spreadsheets allow for a lot of customisation (which is kind of the point of a spreadsheet vs a table). As a programming interface, that makes spreadsheets deceptively powerful. But as a UI were you need to have control over how the user interacts, that makes spreadsheets incredibly painful to integrate. Source: myself. I worked on a project around 20 years ago…

The great thing about spreadsheets is that most grown ups understand them.

I've used it as the best UI for Accountants, Lawyers and other people that are famous for being afraid of technology. It's a great "bridge between "the system" and the people who want to get something from it.

Re: xlskubectl – a spreadsheet to control your Kubernetes cluster

#46

Hey, I'm the person behind this project. Thank you for sharing this. Many people have reached out to improve it, and I might come back with a Jira version one day.

Fantastic, now my PM can just go ahead create a ticket to scale the workloads without having me to update the spreadsheet again

Re: xlskubectl – a spreadsheet to control your Kubernetes cluster

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with spreadsheets vs regular tables is that spreadsheets allow for a lot of customisation (which is kind of the point of a spreadsheet vs a table). As a programming interface, that makes spreadsheets deceptively powerful. But as a UI were you need to have control over how the user interacts, that makes spreadsheets incredibly painful to integrate. Source: myself. I worked on a project around 20 years ago…

The great thing about spreadsheets is that most grown ups understand them. I've used it as the best UI for Accountants, Lawyers and other people that are famous for being afraid of technology. It's a great "bridge between "the system" and the people who want to get something from it.

I’m not disputing spreadsheets as an assessable IDE for “non-programmers”.

I’m a big fan of spreadsheets for “getting shit done”.

But if you’re building a UI for other people to consume, you’ll quickly find that they’d break it in all manner of exotic ways.

This is why CRUD solutions exist. Sometimes you want the relational bookkeeping but with a more restricted UI. In those type of scenarios even MS Access is a better option than Excel (for example).

Re: xlskubectl – a spreadsheet to control your Kubernetes cluster

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Love it. I generally avoided excel when my previous role was a dev. Now, leading a team - I find it more useful as it's a little universe to add various computations (counts, min, max) of various sorts of data that I want to keep track across projects & create charts etc, create rapid UIs (project timelines etc) and easily change them when required, invite collaborators, use that to replace slides to drive meeting di…

> I wish someone also solved the issue with excel around refactoring though - esp when cells are being used in formulas, if there was a "Find All References" or Cmd+SHIFT+F (global find) of elements used in formula (not their values) - it would step it up even more towards maintainability.

I usually handle this in MS Excel by searching "in workbook" and "in formulas". Works even better when the elements are in a named cell which is referenced in formulas (i.e. "stat.infra.APIrequests" instead of "$A$5"), this way you can also globally change the element by reassigning the cell-name to another cell

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