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Shenmue (1999) reverse engineering reveals possible sun position oversight

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Re: Shenmue (1999) reverse engineering reveals possible sun position oversight

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I was really hyped for Shenmue when it came out on the Dreamcast, but I wasn't crazy about it once I finally played it. It was a glorified point and click adventure game, and it ultimately had no ending or purpose. It was an interesting and ambitious idea for a game though, they threw the kitchen sink in there.

My favorite part of the game was playing space harrier in the arcade.

Re: Shenmue (1999) reverse engineering reveals possible sun position oversight

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post #41

I was really hyped for Shenmue when it came out on the Dreamcast, but I wasn't crazy about it once I finally played it. It was a glorified point and click adventure game, and it ultimately had no ending or purpose. It was an interesting and ambitious idea for a game though, they threw the kitchen sink in there. My favorite part of the game was playing space harrier in the arcade.

While it's not a direct continuation, the Yakuza (and later Like a Dragon) series is a spiritual successor in some ways.

Re: Shenmue (1999) reverse engineering reveals possible sun position oversight

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The tl;dr (though you should read!) of the "oversight" is that there's a constant used to adjust the sun's position that's seemingly based on latitude; in the first Shenmue, it's set to 22, and in Shenmue II - which uses much of the same code - it's set to 35. This is odd, because Shenmue I takes place at latitude 35°, and Shenmue II at 22° - precisely the other way around. If that's what's going on, it's sort of har…

I wonder if it has anything to do with the default cutscene that plays on the start screen if you don’t progress. That cutscene would have been set in China as its Shenhua reciting the games central prophecy

Re: Shenmue (1999) reverse engineering reveals possible sun position oversight

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Shenmue is one of my favorite games. I did a bunch of Ghidra reversing on the Dreamcast version last year, since I wanted to add improvements to it. Like adding bilinear filtering on the sky background, making time run a bit (faster so you can see time specific events like Christmas/New Year more easily,) getting the game to run without disc swapping on an ODE, and adding antialiasing (which would require mipmaps to…

Is it true that lucky hit in Shenmue 2 used historical weather data so that humidity had an effect on the wooden pegs on the board?

Re: Shenmue (1999) reverse engineering reveals possible sun position oversight

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Playing through Shenmue 1, they did a really good job capturing the vibe of the area. Looking at random points in Yokosuka just feel like Shenmue. https://www.google.com/maps/@35.2781594,139.677597,3a,75y,27...

Looks like a good spot to practice my moves...

If you google "Shenmue locations in real life" there's a lot of cool stuff. They really did do a great job on that and the ERA as well.

Re: Shenmue (1999) reverse engineering reveals possible sun position oversight

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I wish the article spent 2 sentences introducing wtf Shenmue is

It's a game, for Dreamcast. Certified classic. Amazing technical demo for the time. Redefined what games could be. The Yakuza games would not exist without it and are generally considered it's spiritual successors.

Shenmue was one of the first 3D games where realistic human characters had details like individually movable fingers. It was a very big deal for the year it came out.

Re: Shenmue (1999) reverse engineering reveals possible sun position oversight

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I’m not sure a single person in this thread actually read the article rather than just taking an opportunity to say how much they like the game. I read it and I’m not sure I get the point—it seems in the end what they discovered is the simulated sun position in the first two games are based on each other's locations. Not familiar enough with the series to understand what implication that has, but in any case, is it a…

The first game is set in Yokosuka, Japan, which has its latitude at 35deg north. The second game is set in Hong Kong, which has its latitude at 22deg north. It seems like whoever coded this data into the games may have swapped them.
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