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The Future Is Niri

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Re: The Future Is Niri

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Post by linsomniac »

bilekas wrote: post #6

> The worst "street-cred" I have is that I've been using tiling window managers for thirty-five percent of my life: five years with Sway and two with i3. As the realization of those numbers (and my age) dawns upon me The author is ~21 and seems worried they're old ? I had a good giggle about that.. And then it dawned upon me how old I actually am.

Yeah, I read that and was thinking "Oh, were they using dwm?" Then the next sentence: "Oooh, they're a pup!" :-) Dude, I've had my current job for over 50% of your life. I guess my street cred is I've been using Unix around as long as your parents have been alive.

Re: The Future Is Niri

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Post by broken-kebab »

thesuitonym wrote: post #35
qalmakka wrote: post #24

I just can't wrap my head around tiling WMs (and I've been doing Linux since a _long_ time ago). I just don't see how usable they can be when you have a "small" screen to be honest.

That's cool, homie, maybe it's just not for you. Personally, while I understand the appeal, it's just not for me.

Frankly, mate, the answer is a bit too hipsterish. Of "you won't understand true underground anyway" sort. We're talking about productivity tools, if there are advantages they can be described even if subjectively.

Re: The Future Is Niri

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Post by slightwinder »

bsnnkv wrote: post #34
slightwinder wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see any real innovation with those WM. It looks like they are just migrating the features of advanced Linux-WMs to the windows-world, in their own way. Can you name any specific features you are considering as innovative?

The main ones that I'm still waiting to see integrated into mainstream Linux twms are workspace scrolling (of course), dynamic layout rules and dynamic offset rules (important for ultrawide monitor users). I'd also like to see container limit rules to enforce stacking after meeting a threshold (functions as a hard cap on tiles-per-workspace), and native support for Vimium-style shortcuts for every UI element on the s…

> dynamic layout rules and dynamic offset rules (important for ultrawide monitor users).

What is dynamic offset? And what are you missing from the existing layouts the existing dynamic WMs already deliver?

> and native support for Vimium-style shortcuts for every UI element on the screen (from jwno), but I could probably live without these.

Isn't this impossible with Linux, as the WM has no control over the application on that level? Maybe through accessibility-settings you can gain them on a per app-basis. But this seems more a problem of Desktop Environments than Window Managers.

Re: The Future Is Niri

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Post by TylerE »

BirAdam wrote: post #33

Having heard about Niri previously, I really didn't like the sound of it. Seeing the movement with hotkeys shown with each movement... well... that completely changed my perspective. I will have to give it a try.

Funny, I'm the opposite. The idea is intriguing, but I absolutely do not want animated. I have vision issues and animation just makes everything go (more) blurry.

Re: The Future Is Niri

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Post by bsnnkv »

slightwinder wrote: post #43
bsnnkv wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The main ones that I'm still waiting to see integrated into mainstream Linux twms are workspace scrolling (of course), dynamic layout rules and dynamic offset rules (important for ultrawide monitor users). I'd also like to see container limit rules to enforce stacking after meeting a threshold (functions as a hard cap on tiles-per-workspace), and native support for Vimium-style shortcuts for every UI element on the s…

> dynamic layout rules and dynamic offset rules (important for ultrawide monitor users). What is dynamic offset? And what are you missing from the existing layouts the existing dynamic WMs already deliver? > and native support for Vimium-style shortcuts for every UI element on the screen (from jwno), but I could probably live without these. Isn't this impossible with Linux, as the WM has no control over the applicati…

Since we're >5 layers deep in the thread tree, feel free to hit me up off-platform if you'd like to discuss this more. Again, I'm on my phone today and limited in how much detail I can respond in - but if you are interested enough to dig into the documentation and video resources available you'll find the answers to all of these questions and more.

Re: The Future Is Niri

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Post by DarkCrusader2 »

Does anyone know the best way to get some tiling behavior in tradition DEs like Cinnamon.

Some basic things like notifications, keyboard controls for volume/brightness, sound etc don't work the best in i3wm by default and requires some fiddling on each machine to get it to work properly.

I love the out of the box behavior of my Mint installation and don't want to switch completely to something like i3wm. I could get even a watered down version tiling and stacking like i3 with keyboard shortcuts, I would be very happy. There is gTile but it doesn't quite work the same way.

Re: The Future Is Niri

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Post by loveiswork »

drcongo wrote: post #16

That video immediately made me wish this was available for Mac, it seemed to fit my brain's model of how things should be.

It's not quite the same as Niri, but in case you haven't seen there is _A_ tiling window manager for Mac: Amethyst

No 'endless scrolling' aspect, but I find it works great for managing window sizing and bopping around your windows via keyboard.

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