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Automatically tagging politician when they use their phone on the livestreams

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Re: Automatically tagging politician when they use their phone on the livestreams

#42
post #17

This seems to be an art installation, but I see no explanation of what it means. Is there subtext that's obvious to someone from Belgium (e.g., politicians on phones is a known hot issue)? Or is the viewer supposed to interpret? BTW, if the main complaint that you have about your politicians is that they sometimes look at their phones while in meetings, you're doing really well, count your blessings.

Obviously the subtext is that they are faffing off on their phones and not using their presence at a parliamentary meeting to represent the interests of their constituents in that meeting, which is what they were elected to do. Though from that perspective we should also focus some more on the empty seats, then.

> presence at a parliamentary meeting (...) which is what they were elected to do

Parliamentarians from all around the world gasp in shock and revulsion

Re: Automatically tagging politician when they use their phone on the livestreams

#43

Please do this for congress!! It would be fascinating to see stats posted for each person, etc. BUT more interesting would be the response of the politicians. Will they use their devices less, or will the cameras be ordered turned off and the live stream halted?

I think there's probably 3 outcomes.

1. Republic lawmakers won't care because their base won't care

2. Democrats will use their phones less because their contituents expect them to take their role seriously

3. Politicians will use this performatively when "the other side" is speaking

Re: Automatically tagging politician when they use their phone on the livestreams

#46
post #18

Living in a country that doesn't speak my first language, I use the dictionary all the time during meetings and presentations. I hate it when people tell me that’s rude.. Okay I'll just sit here and not understand what was said to keep up appearances?

Don't let the special case invalidate a good heuristic.

Re: Automatically tagging politician when they use their phone on the livestreams

#47

I mean if it wasn't the 21st century, they would be having a snooze or reading a newspaper or magazine probably. Having a politican 100% committed and listening all the time would be great, but they would quit in no time I'm sure, at least I would.

If they're not committed and listening they should quit immediately. Their work has an extremely outsized impact on their country. If they can't do their job they should leave and let someone else who can fill that role.

Re: Automatically tagging politician when they use their phone on the livestreams

#48

Fun fact: this is quite likely illegal to do in the EU. If it should or should not be legal is a different question, but my understanding of present day law makes this not permissible.

And also think of the children!!1

Re: Automatically tagging politician when they use their phone on the livestreams

#49
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Politicians, especially the high ranking ones, should have 100% transparent lives For what purpose? What would you achieve by doing that?

100% surveillance would give you all of the backroom deals. The promises of executive positions in companies later on, if just this bill passes.. But, not practical. (I mean, it would also include bank account numbers, nuclear start codes, ..)

If that's the case maybe you should surveil the business people making the shady deals instead?

But no.. surveiling the dealings of multinational oil companies would be a totally bizarre intrusion into their privacy and the private property right of the owners... but extremely intrusive surveillance of public servants is fine and their just punishment for doing very demanding work for relatively low compensation.

Sounds completely brainwashed if you ask me. You need to recognize who your friends are.

If you think our economic system has this severely corrupting influence maybe we should consider doing something about that. You don't strike me as a stranger to radical reform.

Re: Automatically tagging politician when they use their phone on the livestreams

#50
This is beyond silly.

You could be using your phone to factcheck something that relates to the ongoing discussion. Or having a side-chat with another member, privately expressing/requesting an opinion to provide context. Or to take quick notes. Or, nowadays, you might even be using an AI to keep a running summary of what the speaker has been rambling about in the last 50 minutes, translated from 'buzzspeak' to 'humanspeak'. All legit uses of technology, which enhance the politician's attention rather than detract from it.

I'm not saying I'm having a hard time believing people 'could' be checking out 9gag instead during parliament, but unless you give me an AI that can detect people who are on their phone AND verified to be slagging off, then you're just bullying people for having phones and being able to use them.

Also, I like how laptops are somehow exempt from this bullying for some magical reason.

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