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GSA Eliminates 18F

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Re: GSA Eliminates 18F

#41
Amazing how the idea of being able to file tax returns online, without paying for a commercial service to do it, is considered far-left extremism in the US.

You’d think that simplifying tax returns and reducing costs in the taxation system would be something the right could get behind?

Re: GSA Eliminates 18F

#42

Isn't this the agency that gradually allowed Americans to file their taxes without paying some commercial third party for the privilege? Like the rest of the world? We Europeans used to be able to gleefully report that we could file our taxes in minutes (which, in fact, it being 1 March, I did today), but you almost had it fixed. Look, I know we Dutch aren't perfect. After all, that twat Rutte (our teflon coated form…

But what can they do? It’s easy in a bloody dictatorship to just raise and take it in your hands, simply unionizing against oppression forces and ignoring personal grave danger. But they are in the US, it’s completely safe there, so it doesn’t work like that. You speak, get angry and wait for some big corporation or bureaucracy to sort it out for you. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43148889

It’s funny to watch (probably) the same people in a tutorial-level situation who thought that if I’m a man/human/etc I should stand by their principles and just go and overthrow the dictator of the place I happen to live in.

Re: GSA Eliminates 18F

#43

Pro tip to 18F workers: get rehired as consultants for 2x the wages.

Unfortunately for 18F's workers, the projects they were working on improved the lives of ordinary Americans (like direct-file). There is no appetite in the current administration for such projects.

Re: GSA Eliminates 18F

#44

TIL that in America, if you work on a free tax filing system you are considered by some to be part of the "far left".

In the US privatization is conservative, so anything that reduces private profiteering on mandatory activities is by definition “far left”.

Re: GSA Eliminates 18F

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But you don't understand. If the government helps you file your taxes, they'll use the service to collect your personal data, so the communists could use it against you at some point in the future. (this is the right wing argument, so to speak)

Is it? I think the more common right-wing argument is that you shouldn't have taxes / the IRS is just evil / the whole government apparatus needs to be burned to the ground. (I do not agree with it, it's just what I interpret the arguments to be)

Here's the tweet that prompted Elon's 'deleted' tweet:

>18F, the far left government wide computer office that was recently taken over by allies of @elonmusk, is also the same agency that built Elizabeth Warren's "Direct File" tax program.

>Direct File puts the government in charge of preparing peoples tax returns for them.

https://nitter.poast.org/alx/status/1886415751528972515?

Clearly, they think there is something malicious in having the federal government manage this service despite the fact that the result gets submitted....to the federal government anyway

Re: GSA Eliminates 18F

#49
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are things that I at least understand, but who is opposed to direct tax filing and … why?

Intuit and their lobbyists, because.. you guessed it! Money.

Rich people, because... you guessed it! Money.

(Direct File doesn't directly affect them, but the push towards automated tax collection strikes at the heart of their games.)

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