"I don't own and don't plan to own any Android devices, because frankly I think it sucks." --jwz Oh, the deep irony.
Where's the irony?
I find it situationally ironic. His arbitrary choices seem to be the source of his frustration.
JWZ ported XScreenSaver to iOS - keeps getting rejected by Apple
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Re: JWZ ported XScreenSaver to iOS - keeps getting rejected by Apple
#42Why would I need a screensaver for an iOS device?
Re: JWZ ported XScreenSaver to iOS - keeps getting rejected by Apple
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's all well and good, but there's no irony there. As statictype I believe was suggesting. It only would have been ironic had jwz elected to develop for iOS because he thought the Android app store policy sucked, to find that the Apple app store policy sucked more. Which is not the case here. [Edited to include clarification]
There's some level of irony in 2 areas: 1) He disses Android harshly, yet ends up complaining about Apple not that much later. 2) He disses Android for "sucking", yet the area he complains about is one where iOS sucks compared to Android. I think this qualifies as irony: incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result.
>There's some level of irony in 2 areas:
1) He disses Android harshly, yet ends up complaining about Apple not that much later. 2) He disses Android for "sucking", yet the area he complains about is one where iOS sucks compared to Android.
That a platform sucks doesn't mean that it cannot have some strong points compared to some other platform.
Is it "ironic" if I say: "The North Pole sucks as a place to live", and then move to Miami and get a sun burn? Does that fact suddenly make the North Pole any more habitable?
Re: JWZ ported XScreenSaver to iOS - keeps getting rejected by Apple
#44Re: JWZ ported XScreenSaver to iOS - keeps getting rejected by Apple
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's all well and good, but there's no irony there. As statictype I believe was suggesting. It only would have been ironic had jwz elected to develop for iOS because he thought the Android app store policy sucked, to find that the Apple app store policy sucked more. Which is not the case here. [Edited to include clarification]
There's some level of irony in 2 areas: 1) He disses Android harshly, yet ends up complaining about Apple not that much later. 2) He disses Android for "sucking", yet the area he complains about is one where iOS sucks compared to Android. I think this qualifies as irony: incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result.
Nope - as batista points out, it only would have been ironic had jwz elected to develop for iOS because he thought the Android app store policy sucked, to find that the Apple app store policy sucked more. Which is not the case here.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you really want Apple to change, how about NOT developing for iOS? Articles like this aren't really going to make them change their policies. Certainly convincing other people not to develop for iOS would have more of an impact than just swearing off it personally. More generally, I dislike the idea that we shouldn't write this sort of thing because "the market will sort it out anyway". This sort of post is the ma…
I agree wholeheartedly with you. However, there is no shortage of articles detailing Apple's arbitrary App store approval process. Yet, the number of applications on the App store keeps on increasing and increasing. What is striking is none (or I haven't come across one) of these articles end with the developer washing their hands off the App store and vowing never to develop another iOS app. Instead, most of them se…
> What is striking is none (or I haven't come across one) of these articles end with the developer washing their hands off the App store and vowing never to develop another iOS app.
Probably because that's a foolish approach as a developer. If your app is worth a damn, then preventing it's use by potential customers simply because of your personal opinion is fairly inconsiderate. Should someone be deprived the use of an app simply because they bought a different phone then the one I approve of?
That's a hard line to take, I understand, and realize not everyone will agree with that. =) I just feel that from the customer perspective, the only thing that matters is the developer. And if the developer choose not to release on the platform I am using, then the developer is essentially telling me I do not matter.
Re: JWZ ported XScreenSaver to iOS - keeps getting rejected by Apple
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
The irony is: That which attracted him is now hurting him.
Only it's a different thing that attracted him (iOS non-suckiness as a mobile OS) than what is hurting him (it's non-openness). The two issues are completely orthogonal.
It's apt, as long as the locked down nature of iOS and the target hardware made it suck less.
Re: JWZ ported XScreenSaver to iOS - keeps getting rejected by Apple
#48Speaking from personal experience, once it becomes clear you and the reviewers are at an impasse but you are still submitting, somebody higher up the app store review chain will give a call to the phone number listed on your developer account and you can have a more reasonable, human conversation.
Otherwise, he should just put up a sign in his club about no cover / free pizza for a member of the iOS team who's willing to put in a good word for xscreensaver. I mean, he _is_ in SF. Even I know several people on the iOS team, at least one of whom has gone there, and I don't even live/work in that area.
Re: JWZ ported XScreenSaver to iOS - keeps getting rejected by Apple
#49Why would I need a screensaver for an iOS device?
It's not a screensaver it just looks like one :)
Screensavers aren't saving any screens these days - their function is merely to provide pretty pictures. And xscreensaver provides LOTS of pretty, if retro, pictures.
Re: JWZ ported XScreenSaver to iOS - keeps getting rejected by Apple
#50Apple might be wrong, but jwz is a dick. Just read the comments on that link and see how abusive he is to the other commenters.
Well, they are pretty terrible responses. And people expect brusqueness from jwz at this point.