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TypeScript types can run DOOM [video]

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Re: TypeScript types can run DOOM [video]

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Post by dimitropoulos »

darcien wrote: post #23
dfabulich wrote: post #18

A WASM runtime in TypeScript types is impressive in its own right, but I think I can dimly see how it could work with a lot of effort. https://github.com/MichiganTypeScript/typescript-types-only-... What I don't understand is how this thing does keyboard input. At 3:42, the video simply says, "And, yes, there's a way to do keyboard input," without elaborating on how. What sorcery is that ? There must be something out…

I haven't checked the DOOM one, but for the Pong example, the keyboard input is prerecorded. As in the sequence of the keyboard key press are sequenced in a TS array[0]. [0]: https://github.com/MichiganTypeScript/typescript-types-only-...

yep! exactly this! like how a tool assisted speedrunner works

Re: TypeScript types can run DOOM [video]

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Post by R3Y-P2U-jz3PVKd »

I hope he learned something useful while doing it and it seems like he did, because, although regarding all the comments here I'll likely be alone in my assessment, I just see a massive waste of time & effort? He described it as "a brutal year-long journey of 18 hour days" and he didn't bootstrap a company, he wrote Doom in Typescript types...?! The "epic" doom music underlying his story just makes it seem even more comical to me.

Maybe it's just me, don't want to crash the party. Carry on

Re: TypeScript types can run DOOM [video]

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Post by dimitropoulos »

orangecat wrote: post #30
pcthrowaway wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well we haven't implemented a web browser capable of running javascript in the typescript type system yet. Quick, someone tell this author it's not possible.

Doom is Turing complete ( https://calabi-yau.space/blog/doom.html ), so it's just a matter of building the appropriate map.

(author here) _yes I realize how ridiculous what I'm about to say is considering the project I just shared_ but I actually strongly disagree, haahah. there's this thing I learned of called "the turing tarpit". my position is that just because something could theoretically be done with infinite time and infinite resources, doesn't mean you can even approach the throne of doing it for real in a human lifetime.

And if I'm just totally wrong on this, then you have your answer on why I never gave up on this project. I never once, ever, at any point, lost hope that it wouldn't work (HOW COULD IT?!).... right up until the very instant when I couldn't deny it anymore and it was on the screen in front of me.

Re: TypeScript types can run DOOM [video]

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R3Y-P2U-jz3PVKd wrote: post #42

I hope he learned something useful while doing it and it seems like he did, because, although regarding all the comments here I'll likely be alone in my assessment, I just see a massive waste of time & effort? He described it as "a brutal year-long journey of 18 hour days" and he didn't bootstrap a company, he wrote Doom in Typescript types...?! The "epic" doom music underlying his story just makes it seem even more…

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Re: TypeScript types can run DOOM [video]

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Post by dimitropoulos »

jschoe wrote: post #35
sys13 wrote: post #22

Not only is Dimitri an amazing engineer - he's also great at building community and event/video production. Michigan Typescript meetups and videos have a level of polish that goes over and above

In the YouTube comments he stated nonetheless that he still bombed big tech interviews, specifically the technical portion, probably because of some ridiculous LeetCode problem he did not memorize beforehand. It just goes to show how these procedures do not effectively determine who is actually a good engineer or programmer. If this guy can't land a job while achieving this, then something is not quite right with the…

hi! yep! this definitely happened. I do mention it in the next "why" video, but it's good feedback to know this is interesting to people because I could say a bit more about what those rejections were like - specifically the one where I failed the technical screening.

I'm actually really excited to share that part of the story because I hope it can be a small thing in the back of people's mind to help them if it happens to them. It can happen to anyone. Interviews are SUCH a lossy process and most engineers I know don't have any training on how to do interviews at all - yet we just assume they know how to evaluate people's skillsets.

Re: TypeScript types can run DOOM [video]

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Post by esailija »

ulrischa wrote: post #43

Typescript is for me one of the most overengineered programming languages. Why did JS not follow the way python and php did? Integrate types in the main language but make it optional.

Typescript does support it. You can do everything ts can in js with just jsdoc style comments. I actually prefer it.

Re: TypeScript types can run DOOM [video]

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Post by antihero »

R3Y-P2U-jz3PVKd wrote: post #42

I hope he learned something useful while doing it and it seems like he did, because, although regarding all the comments here I'll likely be alone in my assessment, I just see a massive waste of time & effort? He described it as "a brutal year-long journey of 18 hour days" and he didn't bootstrap a company, he wrote Doom in Typescript types...?! The "epic" doom music underlying his story just makes it seem even more…

I guess you have to ask yourself, what truely gives value in life? The answer is that value is subjective, and this person is wasting his time no less or more than you or I.
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