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Material Theme has been pulled from VS Code's marketplace

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Re: Material Theme has been pulled from VS Code's marketplace

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Post by miyuru »

bad_user wrote: post #34
oefrha wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The original author seemed to talk a lot about funding development/maintenance, so I got curious about what the hell needs to be maintained. I cloned the https://github.com/t3dotgg/vsc-material-but-i-wont-sue-you repo and had a look. Here's a LoC summary: =============================================================================== Language Files Lines Code Comments Blanks ==========================================…

There's nothing wrong with building proprietary software of a couple of thousand lines of code, including themes. And people should be able to ask for money in exchange for their work. What's wrong is the bait and switch, as these projects end up being popular because of their FOSS nature.

He had raised about $7.6k total funding using opencollective.

https://opencollective.com/material-theme

that's pretty good, especially for a vscode theme.

Re: Material Theme has been pulled from VS Code's marketplace

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Post by School-Cotton »

badrequest wrote: post #6
mock-possum wrote: post #2

Another creator gone off the deep end apparently? > reading the review responses by the creator, I don't really trust it anymore. Being rude to others who are concerned over the recent move to closed-source (and without warning!) is pretty disheartening. > So, uh, the guy who made the VS Code Material Theme is threatening everyone who uses it in their products. He seems to have forgotten it was originally licensed un…

It seems utterly absurd to me that anybody should be able to issue a copyright claim on a collection of colors and fonts. Copyrights are issued to logos and slogans, not design systems.

No, trademarks are issued to logos and slogans.

Re: Material Theme has been pulled from VS Code's marketplace

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Post by Waterluvian »

Krutonium wrote: post #38
donatj wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pantone is a lot more than hex codes, it's a whole system of material science for colors.

Yep - Give them a Pantone Color and a Material, and they can tell you how to get that material in that exact color.

I dunno. I asked for the Pantone of neon brown on transparent aluminum and they stopped returning my calls.

Re: Material Theme has been pulled from VS Code's marketplace

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Post by School-Cotton »

ruined wrote: post #25
deadbabe wrote: post #5

[flagged]

git is a blockchain

No it’s not. A blockchain is a Merkle tree whose canonical “master branch” is agreed upon by everyone and difficult or impossible to change (e.g. due to PoW or a similar mechanism).

A git repository is just a Merkle tree.

Re: Material Theme has been pulled from VS Code's marketplace

#45

Post by tavavex »

david422 wrote: post #22
ryandrake wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So many people who are otherwise functional in society, for whatever reason just can't play well with others when it comes to online communication. This can be true for both software maintainers and users. People can't just leave their emotions at the door and file a bug report or respond to a help request, without including a little personal jab or passive aggressive snipe. Looking at some of those replies to users,…

> So many people who are otherwise functional in society, for whatever reason just can't play well with others when it comes to online communication. So I run a small game that has a couple thousand active users, and part of that is allowing users to chat via written text. The amount of vitriol some users spew just amazes me. If they acted like that in person, I expect they would get punched in the mouth quite often.…

> I also have a suspicion that some of these people are literally mentally ill, and online is basically where they live.

Some of it may be because of this. However, I also think that the absence of risk of being mouth-punched contributes a lot. I feel like lots of people are deeply hateful, distrusting and angry in real life, and the risk of social and legal repercussions is the only thing that's keeping a lid on their disregard for others. I think that if this danger of consequences was removed, they would do unspeakable things.

Re: Material Theme has been pulled from VS Code's marketplace

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Post by vorpalhex »

koakuma-chan wrote: post #32

Nobody is gonna pay for a VSCode theme.

I'd pay off the cuff money ($5) if it wasn't paywalled. "Donationware" if you will. I do this with other apps/resources/things including a nice pixel font I like using in images.

I suck at colors and want nice themes. I'm glad people better at this than me take time to make nice things.

But, I don't want to ever manage licenses for my theme. My dotfiles need to fetch it automatically or it's out.

Re: Material Theme has been pulled from VS Code's marketplace

#47

Post by moralestapia »

Waterluvian wrote: post #43
Krutonium wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep - Give them a Pantone Color and a Material, and they can tell you how to get that material in that exact color.

I dunno. I asked for the Pantone of neon brown on transparent aluminum and they stopped returning my calls.

You should do stand-up comedy.

Re: Material Theme has been pulled from VS Code's marketplace

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Post by moralestapia »

bad_user wrote: post #37
alwayslikethis wrote: post #15

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My understanding is that permissive licenses (BSD,MIT) can generally be relicensed. For example you can fork a MIT project under GPL. But to do the same for a GPL project requires agreeement from all copyright owners, or just you if you made everyone sign a CLA. This is the whole point of GPL.

Your general understanding is wrong, as there's nothing in either BSD or MIT that allows for re-licensing, and nothing else gives you that right. You can incorporate MIT/BSD code in a proprietary project, but that imported code itself remains BSD/MIT licensed. For many projects, this is a technicality, but no, you can't claim copyright on MIT/BSD code that isn't yours.

>as there's nothing in either BSD or MIT that allows for re-licensing

But also nothing preventing you from doing it.

MIT can be relicensed, for sure.

Re: Material Theme has been pulled from VS Code's marketplace

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Post by weinzierl »

bad_user wrote: post #34
oefrha wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The original author seemed to talk a lot about funding development/maintenance, so I got curious about what the hell needs to be maintained. I cloned the https://github.com/t3dotgg/vsc-material-but-i-wont-sue-you repo and had a look. Here's a LoC summary: =============================================================================== Language Files Lines Code Comments Blanks ==========================================…

There's nothing wrong with building proprietary software of a couple of thousand lines of code, including themes. And people should be able to ask for money in exchange for their work. What's wrong is the bait and switch, as these projects end up being popular because of their FOSS nature.

"What's wrong is the bait and switch,[..]"

Morally wrong, legally not so much. If it is under a permissive license (and it was MIT originally as others have pointed out) you can always cut a proprietary version.

That doesn't take away the right to use the permissively licensed code of course.

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