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Trump will kill CHIPS Act by gutting NIST employees

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Re: Trump will kill CHIPS Act by gutting NIST employees

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We’re fine until China invades Taiwan and the tech companies that prop up our economy can’t buy high-end chips anymore.

What if we simply do not let China invade Taiwan?

That’s probably not possible anymore given China’s increasingly large and advanced military.

Re: Trump will kill CHIPS Act by gutting NIST employees

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So much for TSMC’s Arizona expansion and Intel’s foundry plans.

TSM has found few American workers willing to work as hard as Taiwan's, so likely no great loss for them.

Uggh, what sad replies & lack of defense amid the replies for TSMC America! 'Lazy American worker!' yada yada.

Arizona fab has had top notch quality, out-pacing Taiwan's yields. https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/semiconductors/ts...

They're making 4nm chips too now, doing fine. https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/semiconductors/ts...

Re: Trump will kill CHIPS Act by gutting NIST employees

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This one really doesn't make sense if you actually want to MAGA, since advanced chips is a critical area for the US to maintain leadership. China is meanwhile pouring many $billions into catching up.

The Chinese can't believe their good luck. No need for them to do anything -- just let the US self-destruct.

Re: Trump will kill CHIPS Act by gutting NIST employees

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We’re fine until China invades Taiwan and the tech companies that prop up our economy can’t buy high-end chips anymore.

What if we simply do not let China invade Taiwan?

So instead of spending _billions_ to support a domestic advanced chip design and production, we spend _trillions_ on a war with China?

Re: Trump will kill CHIPS Act by gutting NIST employees

#45

I don’t get the doom and gloom, isn’t this just taking us back to before the CHIPS act, 2022? Weren’t we fine then?

We’re fine until China invades Taiwan and the tech companies that prop up our economy can’t buy high-end chips anymore.

That's not the only threat.

China is racing to catch up. Sure, they're still behind, but as much as I dislike their autocratic government, they're actually smartly spending many many $billions to create a domestic chip design and manufacturing. And once they do that, well, it'll just be one more area in which we'll have handed leadership to the Chinese, except with much more critical ramifications.

Re: Trump will kill CHIPS Act by gutting NIST employees

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he did say this day one. And despite feelinig like eternity, we're only entering week 5. This would be considered "fast" by any other administraion. But yes. I remember when Americans used to care about politicians creating American jobs as a populist stance. Those days feel like decades ago now with people celebrating the literal slashing of government jobs (who surprise, is the biggest US employer).

Most Americans care about creating American jobs in the private sector not about growing the government by creating more government jobs. More Americans are employed by industry and small businesses (as it should be) than by government. Why would you think there needs to be one giant employer instead of a healthy market of many? Stats: The Bureau of Labor and Statistics puts the total number of Americans employed by…

Some segment of the population wants more teachers, but is not willing to pay them more to attract them, because taxes would have to increase. Over 1k school districts in the US are on a four day week, as it’s the only way to retain those teachers on the budget they have. Americans want more private employment. Where? If healthcare and construction, where demand is greatest, do they think laid off government workers will retrain? Or retire? The last administration attempted to create well paying, union jobs in clean energy technology manufacturing and this admin is rolling all of that funding back (much to the detriment of red states, to their self inflicted surprise). The economy is at 4% unemployment, and 4M Boomers are retiring per year, ~11,200 per day.

If this is an attempt to free up labor for private industry to further diminish worker power and wages, the demographics crunch comes regardless due to the compressing working age population pyramid. The federal government creates jobs for both unprofitable yet necessary work and is an employer of last resort in the ways it offers and structures work available (military spouse flexible work arrangements, locating offices and working spaces for federal work in communities where no other employer will offer jobs, etc).

> Most Americans care about creating American jobs in the private sector not about growing the government by creating more government jobs. More Americans are employed by industry and small businesses (as it should be) than by government.

The American electorate, broadly speaking, is grossly uneducated and unsophisticated in these matters unfortunately. They don’t even know who pays tariffs, why they’re inflationary, etc.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/14/politics/the-biggest-predicto...

Re: Trump will kill CHIPS Act by gutting NIST employees

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TSM has found few American workers willing to work as hard as Taiwan's, so likely no great loss for them.

Will not be great when China invades Taiwan and global supply of TSMC output evaporates as TSMC destroys the fabs to prevent takeover. > Earlier this year, he said: "Disabling or destroying TSMC is table stakes if China is taking over Taiwan. Would we be so insane as to allow the world's key semiconductor company [to] fall untouched into the hands of an aggressive PRC? Taiwanese should realize that would be the least…

Trump doesn't give two shits about Taiwan. My guess is he'll break out his great negotiation skills to get China to … agree that Taiwan is part of China and that we should pay them more for chips (except he'll sell it to us as paying less by just flat out lying about it).

Re: Trump will kill CHIPS Act by gutting NIST employees

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Will not be great when China invades Taiwan and global supply of TSMC output evaporates as TSMC destroys the fabs to prevent takeover. > Earlier this year, he said: "Disabling or destroying TSMC is table stakes if China is taking over Taiwan. Would we be so insane as to allow the world's key semiconductor company [to] fall untouched into the hands of an aggressive PRC? Taiwanese should realize that would be the least…

Trump doesn't give two shits about Taiwan. My guess is he'll break out his great negotiation skills to get China to … agree that Taiwan is part of China and that we should pay them more for chips (except he'll sell it to us as paying less by just flat out lying about it).

If that is the case, the timing is strange with the US State Department changing website content indicating otherwise.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyzy300vlzo

Re: Trump will kill CHIPS Act by gutting NIST employees

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We’re fine until China invades Taiwan and the tech companies that prop up our economy can’t buy high-end chips anymore.

What if we simply do not let China invade Taiwan?

That’s incredibly expensive - orders of magnitude more than the CHIPS act – and likely isn’t even possible any more without massive loss of life. China does not have the huge but technologically unsophisticated military of the 1970-80s where American aircraft carriers could prevent an invasion. They’ve spent a lot of effort and espionage building up more equipment and I highly doubt they’ll prove a paper tiger like Russia. If it came to a shooting war with a large, well-equipped adversary with stealth aircraft, good missiles and drones, advanced submarines, etc. you’re looking at a lot of American casualties very quickly – and that’s before we consider a Pentagon headed by people who were selected for political loyalty rather than merit.

Re: Trump will kill CHIPS Act by gutting NIST employees

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Fully expected, surprised it took this long. IIRC, the funds went to mostly red states. So MAGA people, happy your guy came through for you again ?

he did say this day one. And despite feelinig like eternity, we're only entering week 5. This would be considered "fast" by any other administraion. But yes. I remember when Americans used to care about politicians creating American jobs as a populist stance. Those days feel like decades ago now with people celebrating the literal slashing of government jobs (who surprise, is the biggest US employer).

Government spending doesn’t necessarily create jobs, since the money it spends is taken from other people (as either taxes or inflation). It merely redistributes jobs.
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