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Twitch's new storage limits will purge swaths of Internet gaming history
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Re: Twitch's new storage limits will purge swaths of Internet gaming history
#42Is this a zoomer thing or do people not know how to save things anymore?
Re: Twitch's new storage limits will purge swaths of Internet gaming history
#43I never really considered Twitch to be a platform that _kept_ videos, only stream them to the viewer. If you're on Twitch and you want to make your video permanent, you have to upload it to Youtube. That's how most of the streamers I watch handle it anyway.
Google is a solid behemoth, but they don't provide safekeeping for regular users. Without recourse, they can lock you out of your account, or delete pieces of your data for umbrella reasons (copyright, csam, undisclosed) That said, saving the stream as a video to youtube is a good idea because of redundancy.
> Google is a solid behemoth
10 years ago, Google promised certain college alumni high storage limits forever. In the past 4 months, Google decreased the storage limits two times, and told users to reduce their GDrive use or have their emails deleted
Didn’t consider the AGI race would lead to the loss of digital archives owned by the few companies that could afford to keep those archives up for free
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#44I hope this won't make YouTube pull the same stunt in the near future, at least for the smaller channels.
I’ve been thinking about this and waiting for when they charge money to keep content stored on their servers.
In all likelihood, too few people would be willing to pay for this long-term to be worth implementing it. And it would increase the chances of an alternative platform becoming successful, more than just deleting old videos, because having to pay for something that was free before tends to cause a bigger outcry, and also because it would give people more time to migrate their videos.
Re: Twitch's new storage limits will purge swaths of Internet gaming history
#45Is this a zoomer thing or do people not know how to save things anymore?
New generations (re)discover that the cloud is just someone else’s computer, and that on a service you don’t pay for you’re the product and not the customer.
Re: Twitch's new storage limits will purge swaths of Internet gaming history
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google is a solid behemoth, but they don't provide safekeeping for regular users. Without recourse, they can lock you out of your account, or delete pieces of your data for umbrella reasons (copyright, csam, undisclosed) That said, saving the stream as a video to youtube is a good idea because of redundancy.
> Google is a solid behemoth 10 years ago, Google promised certain college alumni high storage limits forever. In the past 4 months, Google decreased the storage limits two times, and told users to reduce their GDrive use or have their emails deleted Didn’t consider the AGI race would lead to the loss of digital archives owned by the few companies that could afford to keep those archives up for free
I have seen people upload petabytes worth of pirated content onto those student mail accounts. Most of it got purged after the limits were imposed.
Re: Twitch's new storage limits will purge swaths of Internet gaming history
#47Doesn't good stuff on Twitch get cross-posted to Youtube anyway? I imagine the actual stream is several hours long and not really of interest to 'historians' or Twitch viewers.
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#48In a speed running context, those saying “the streamers just need to save their best content and ditch the rest”. I think this works if we’re assuming all those world record holders are still active, I can imagine many have gone on to other things or haven’t logged into their account in years. So it will certainly need to be a community effort to try and preserve some historic runs done over the years. I don’t even k…
Fundamentally, you should have multiple copies of any data you really want to keep. Those copies should be spread across multiple storage media and physical locations. Optimally, you retain direct control of some subset of the copies. Disasters happen. Even in absence of this policy change, what would the community do if weather, fire, malicious actors, etc caused some massive failure that resulted in substantial dat…
yt-dlp for downloading - no need to screen record
Re: Twitch's new storage limits will purge swaths of Internet gaming history
#49On short notice. Really short notice. This has easily sent thousands of people into a panic. Twitch are out of their minds, and there's a blatant disconnect with the streamers.
Twitch knows exactly what they're doing. They're forcing streamers to assume the responsibility & cost for storing & serving video archives. Twitch's costs go down, which means their profit goes up, which makes their execs & shareholders happier. They're unlikely to lose much business, & if they do lose business it will be dwarfed by the cost savings & increased profits.
A lot of archived streamer footage will disappear; most archived footage that is preserved will likely uploaded to streamers' YouTube channel(s).
Re: Twitch's new storage limits will purge swaths of Internet gaming history
#50On short notice. Really short notice. This has easily sent thousands of people into a panic. Twitch are out of their minds, and there's a blatant disconnect with the streamers.
Twitch knows exactly what they're doing. They're forcing streamers to assume the responsibility & cost for storing & serving video archives. Twitch's costs go down, which means their profit goes up, which makes their execs & shareholders happier. They're unlikely to lose much business, & if they do lose business it will be dwarfed by the cost savings & increased profits. A lot of archived streamer footage will disapp…
Yes, they know what they're doing re: moving the responsibility of storing/serving video archives to the streamer.
No, they don't know what they're doing re: doing this on such short notice. Few streamers have the time, network bandwidth and local storage to salvage the data in such short notice.
As a result, many a streamer is working without sleep moving data to save it from certain doom.