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Re: OpenEuroLLM

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Post by seydor »

> OpenEuroLLM has a total budget of €37.4 million of which €20.6 million comes from the Digital Europe Programme.

So on average 1.87 million per participating institution which might amount to funding ~5 PhD students per institution. Not bad for a training program.

The project has been awarded the Sovereignity Seal, an EU mark of Excellence before it even started. This is truly in accordance with european values, where we reward participation and proclamation. I don't think we will ever hear again from this project.

Congratulations to the participants of the consortium for receiving this large EU grant. Thoughts and prayers to the students who will be writing the deliverable progress reports.

Re: OpenEuroLLM

#42

Post by coalbin »

rafram wrote: post #28
dkyc wrote: post #3

But can I run it on Gaia-X? This really reads like a parody. Press release, “a consortium of 20 research institutions”, “awarded the STEP (Strategic Technologies for Europe Platform) seal”. Lots of grandiose self-congratulations. All with nothing to run, download or try of course.

> Press release https://openai.com/news/company-announcements/ > a consortium of 20 research institutions https://aimagazine.com/machine-learning/google-invests-in-ai... > awarded the STEP (Strategic Technologies for Europe Platform) seal https://openai.com/index/strengthening-americas-ai-leadershi... > Lots of grandiose self-congratulations https://x.com/sama/status/1891533802779910471 > All with nothing to run, dow…

Maybe you can't download their weights, but you can literally try out their products right from their homepage. What's your point?

Re: OpenEuroLLM

#43

Post by simion314 »

ffsm8 wrote: post #39
simion314 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>This is classic EU. An announcement of an effort to collect collaborators to discuss doing something that they might do in the future. It should be done in secret? How did they manage to create CERN? maybe there was no reddit like people commenting back then?

No, but collaboration comes with a cost too. As a European myself, I would prefer them to put less emphasis on collaboration and more on actually doing something's with the resources available to them and making that freely available. Collaboration will happen naturally and without having to coordinate. But as they said, this is less about producing value then it's about signaling

So CERN and similar? you think it could have been done without any coordonation? Like 2 guys faking under they make it USA style ?

Re: OpenEuroLLM

#44

Post by baggy_trough »

cyberax wrote: post #26
dkyc wrote: post #3

But can I run it on Gaia-X? This really reads like a parody. Press release, “a consortium of 20 research institutions”, “awarded the STEP (Strategic Technologies for Europe Platform) seal”. Lots of grandiose self-congratulations. All with nothing to run, download or try of course.

Europe is moving at the speed of bureaucracy. It's slow, but inexorable. And honestly, people don't _want_ the European bureaucracy to move fast. Case in point: the USA.

The spending of money is inexorable, but little else is achieved (unless you count blocking productive people).

Re: OpenEuroLLM

#45

Post by sergiotapia »

just smells really "EU". lots of talk about inclusion, regulations, equality, lot of kissing the ring of institutions. they are cooked aren't they? :(

Re: OpenEuroLLM

#46

Post by amarcheschi »

ffsm8 wrote: post #39
simion314 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>This is classic EU. An announcement of an effort to collect collaborators to discuss doing something that they might do in the future. It should be done in secret? How did they manage to create CERN? maybe there was no reddit like people commenting back then?

No, but collaboration comes with a cost too. As a European myself, I would prefer them to put less emphasis on collaboration and more on actually doing something's with the resources available to them and making that freely available. Collaboration will happen naturally and without having to coordinate. But as they said, this is less about producing value then it's about signaling

I don't get this. At the beginning of the press release they cite eurohpc. Before eurohpc, it was probably announced with a similar press release. And then it existed

Re: OpenEuroLLM

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Post by simion314 »

01HNNWZ0MV43FF wrote: post #40
simion314 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>This is classic EU. An announcement of an effort to collect collaborators to discuss doing something that they might do in the future. It should be done in secret? How did they manage to create CERN? maybe there was no reddit like people commenting back then?

It probably should not be number 2 on Hacker News, unless Hacker News has a lot of readers who might contribute to this effort

>It probably should not be number 2 on Hacker News, unless Hacker News has a lot of readers who might contribute to this effort

I agree, but some EU people want to share it and USA guys and EU skeptiks want to shit on it. Probably we should post a wikipedia article about CERN and have Elon fanboys explain how Elon can do it it better while his bit* Trump could make our eggs cheaper.

Re: OpenEuroLLM

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Post by amarcheschi »

dkyc wrote: post #3

But can I run it on Gaia-X? This really reads like a parody. Press release, “a consortium of 20 research institutions”, “awarded the STEP (Strategic Technologies for Europe Platform) seal”. Lots of grandiose self-congratulations. All with nothing to run, download or try of course.

It is not different from any corporate speech, except that this time is for public benefit rather than private, and will proceed much slower. And yes, I don't know why but apparently consortium are named quite often, I'm in compsci in italy and on hpc courses they get named a lot
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