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Helix: A vision-language-action model for generalist humanoid control

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Re: Helix: A vision-language-action model for generalist humanoid control

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Have a look at the post - it explains how it works. There are two models: a 7-9Hz 7B vision-language model, and a 200Hz 80M visuomotor model. The former produces a latent vector, which is then interpreted by the latter to drive the motors.

> a 7-9Hz 7B vision-language model, and a 200Hz 80M visuomotor model. huh. An interesting approach. I wonder if something like this can be used for other things as well, like "computer use" with the same concept of a "large" model handling the goals, and a "small" model handling clicking and stuff, at much higher rates, useful for games and things like that.

This is typical in real time applications. A supervisor tries to guess in which region the system is currently and then invokes the correct set of lower level algorithms.

Re: Helix: A vision-language-action model for generalist humanoid control

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Imo, the Terminator movies would have been scarier if they moved like these guys - slow, careful, deliberate and measured but unstoppable. There's something uncanny about this.

Unfortunately, there'll be no time travel to save us. That was the lying part of the movie. Other stuff was true.

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There’s nothing I want more than a robot that does house chores. That’s the real 10x multiplier for humans to do what they do best.

What do humans do best?

I mean to use their time to pursue their passions and interests, not cleaning up the kitchen or making the bed or doing laundry...

Re: Helix: A vision-language-action model for generalist humanoid control

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post #30

Why do they make “eye contact” after every hand off? Feels oddly forced.

This along with the writing style in the description is totally forced anthropomorphizing. It’s creepy.

Gotta hype up the investors somehow

Re: Helix: A vision-language-action model for generalist humanoid control

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I don't know, there has been so many overhyped and faked demos in humanoid robotics space over the last couple years, it is difficult to believe what is clearly a demo release for shareholders. Would love to see some demonstration in a less controlled environment.

Re: Helix: A vision-language-action model for generalist humanoid control

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Maybe I don't understand exactly what you're describing but why would anyone pay for this? When I bring home the shopping I just... chuck stuff in the cupboards. I already know where it all goes. Maybe you can explain more?

One use case I imagine is skilled workmanship. For example, putting on a pair of AR glasses and having the equivalent of an experienced plumber telling me exactly where to look for that leak and how to fix it. Or how to replace my brake pads or install a new kitchen sink. When I hire a plumber or a mechanic or an electrician, I'm not just paying for muscle. Most of the value these professionals bring is experience an…

This is called "watching YouTube tutorials". We've had it for decades.

Re: Helix: A vision-language-action model for generalist humanoid control

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

One use case I imagine is skilled workmanship. For example, putting on a pair of AR glasses and having the equivalent of an experienced plumber telling me exactly where to look for that leak and how to fix it. Or how to replace my brake pads or install a new kitchen sink. When I hire a plumber or a mechanic or an electrician, I'm not just paying for muscle. Most of the value these professionals bring is experience an…

This is called "watching YouTube tutorials". We've had it for decades.

But what if there's no YouTube tutorial for the exact AC unit you have and it doesn't look like any of the videos you checked out?

Re: Helix: A vision-language-action model for generalist humanoid control

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There’s nothing I want more than a robot that does house chores. That’s the real 10x multiplier for humans to do what they do best.

Yeah, except that future doesn't need us. By us I mean those of us who don't have $1B to their name.

Do you really expect the oligarchs to put up with the environmental degradation of 8 billion humans when they can have a pristine planet to themselves with their whims served by the AI and these robots?

I fully anticipate that when these things mature enough we'll see an "accidental" pandemic sweep and kill off 90% of us. At least 90%.

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