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A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

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Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

#41

From another continent, genuinely curious about Trump voters on this: - Does anyone here at HN stand for this action? - If so, do you think there's a conflict of interest? How do stand on this possible conflict?

If you just look at this part:

> ...look at the current system, learn what air traffic controllers like and dislike about their current tools, and envision how we can make a new, better, modern and safer system.

Do you think there is anything wrong?

Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

#43

" Duffy said the team from SpaceX went to Virginia to “get a firsthand look at the current system, learn what air traffic controllers like and dislike about their current tools, and envision how we can make a new, better, modern and safer system.”" I don't understand how anyone can be reasonably against this? They are not going to just overhaul everything overnight, they are going to upgrade the system based on ATC f…

> They are not going to just overhaul everything overnight, they are going to upgrade the system based on ATC feedback.

Let's assume that the person isn't so full of it that the sclera of their eyes aren't dark brown.

What guarantees that Musk's team is the best to do this on-time, on-budget, and on-spec?

Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

#44
Sounds really interesting what’s happening there. Long story short: I once applied as a hardware developer for RF systems. Air traffic control systems were one of the topics. So basically digital solution exists, it’s light years better than current systems. The problem is the more or less simultaneous worldwide rollout of the new systems. On planes and airports… Because nobody wants to pay for a solution that supports both new and old communication standards. The old one is somehow enough for the most of the world.

Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

#45

What specific expertise does SpaceX have in the air traffic control realm? What was the bidding process like? Do other regions / nations have more advanced ATC than we do, and what can we learn from them? Is there a problem statement beyond "it has some old bits"? What are the specific goals? Just feels like corruption, tbh.

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Trump hands over government services to his biggest donor with zero accountability, transparency, and oversight. That is not corruption? What an Orwellian world.

SpaceX bid and won projects. Did they win via corruption as well?

Reread everything and cross out through names and see if you feel the sams.

Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

#46

" Duffy said the team from SpaceX went to Virginia to “get a firsthand look at the current system, learn what air traffic controllers like and dislike about their current tools, and envision how we can make a new, better, modern and safer system.”" I don't understand how anyone can be reasonably against this? They are not going to just overhaul everything overnight, they are going to upgrade the system based on ATC f…

That is astounding naive take. Musk has a pattern of behavior and this fits it. This is pure corruption.

We clearly have very different definitions of corruption. Actual aeronautics engineers with hands-on expertise offering advice on how to modernize air safety systems does not fall within my definition of corruption.

Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

#47
post #41

From another continent, genuinely curious about Trump voters on this: - Does anyone here at HN stand for this action? - If so, do you think there's a conflict of interest? How do stand on this possible conflict?

If you just look at this part: > ...look at the current system, learn what air traffic controllers like and dislike about their current tools, and envision how we can make a new, better, modern and safer system. Do you think there is anything wrong?

The process seems fine. But why SpaceX?

Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

#48

What specific expertise does SpaceX have in the air traffic control realm? What was the bidding process like? Do other regions / nations have more advanced ATC than we do, and what can we learn from them? Is there a problem statement beyond "it has some old bits"? What are the specific goals? Just feels like corruption, tbh.

There is no more thought process than: "Elon smart and hard working. Government employees dumb and lazy (and also woke)"

Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

#49

What specific expertise does SpaceX have in the air traffic control realm? What was the bidding process like? Do other regions / nations have more advanced ATC than we do, and what can we learn from them? Is there a problem statement beyond "it has some old bits"? What are the specific goals? Just feels like corruption, tbh.

Why is everyone assuming SpaceX is getting paid for this by the government? The article doesn't even say that SpaceX is getting paid by the govt for it, they just put it in the headline and use weasel words in the story to make people come up with assumptions that may not be true.

The govt can be paying those folks directly or Musk himself can be paying them like he did for some DOGE team members.

Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

#50

" Duffy said the team from SpaceX went to Virginia to “get a firsthand look at the current system, learn what air traffic controllers like and dislike about their current tools, and envision how we can make a new, better, modern and safer system.”" I don't understand how anyone can be reasonably against this? They are not going to just overhaul everything overnight, they are going to upgrade the system based on ATC f…

I agree, SpaceX has 13,000 genius staff working in the aerospace industry, I'm pretty sure they can add some value to an aging ATC system.

The system is largely developed by Lockheed, Raytheon and Thales (all defense contractors). If there's a legal issue with SpaceX doing this I'm sure you'll hear about it.

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