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Why did we start talking about news as "legacy media"?

I mean, at least it has journalistic standards and some semblance of fact checking compared to social media which has given us great gaffes such as identifying the wrong Boston Marathon bomber and getting the poor guy to kill himself, wrongly identifying the Hispanic white supremacist shooter, and many many more.

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Grok has gotten to the top of one benchmark: https://x.com/lmarena_ai/status/1891706264800936307 It's been said before but it is great news for consumers that there's so much competition in the LLM space. If it's hard for any one player to get daylight between them & the 2nd best alternative, hopefully that means one monopolistic firm isn't going to be sucking up all the value created by these things

I think it's already clear that these are going to be commoditized and the free / open source versions will be good enough to capture enough of the value that the remaining players will not be Facebook-level monopolies on the space

Apparently it isn't clear to the investors valuing OpenAI at >300B. Possibly they're betting that the ecosystem & integrations around their models will generate a certain amount of lock-in or otherwise make the difference in a close-to-even field

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's already clear that these are going to be commoditized and the free / open source versions will be good enough to capture enough of the value that the remaining players will not be Facebook-level monopolies on the space

Apparently it isn't clear to the investors valuing OpenAI at >300B. Possibly they're betting that the ecosystem & integrations around their models will generate a certain amount of lock-in or otherwise make the difference in a close-to-even field

Funnily enough a lot of the open source world has landed on an API that is basically a copy of OpenAI. So if you develop against OpenAI it’s almost a slot in solution to switch to an open source solution.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No idea why was this downvoted, but you are correct. Seems like the team at xAI caught up very quickly to OpenAI to be at the top of the leaderboard in one of the benchmarks and also caught up with features with Grok 3. Giving credit where credit is due, even though this is a race to zero.

Yeah, so many people aren't capable of talking about anything Musk-adjacent with clear thoughts. It's insane how quickly xAI went from not existing, to the top of the benchmarks.

I'm not sure what you mean here? Musk has a history of doing both incredibly useful and cool things, and also incredibly dumb, cruel, and for some people even terrible things. That context should be part of any clear thinking around him. He does not get a clean slate in every new discussion of him.

There are widespread, legitimate concerns about what kind of person Elon Musk is turning out to be. There is a lot of chatter about fears of China's AI rise, but what happens if we get Elon's brand of cruelty and lack of empathy in an authoritarian superintelligent AI ? Is that the AI future we want? Can you imagine an SAI with real power that interacts with people like Elon does on Twitter? I am not sure that is a future I want to live in.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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I find it interesting that these two descriptions of news are treated as equivalent, where I think they're almost opposing:

"raw, unfiltered news"

"real, trustworthy news"

Raw and unfiltered almost cannot be "news" (by my definition of what I go seeking for as "news"). X provides raw, unfiltered information. But real, trustworthy news almost requires filtration in order to be deemed trustworthy.

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Grok 3 at the top of Chatboat Arena with 1400, and the model will continue to improve as it trains more.

No idea why was this downvoted, but you are correct. Seems like the team at xAI caught up very quickly to OpenAI to be at the top of the leaderboard in one of the benchmarks and also caught up with features with Grok 3. Giving credit where credit is due, even though this is a race to zero.

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