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Re: Blocklist for AI Music on YouTube

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it hides from recommendations, but not search results

It's always interesting to see how people use a site entirely differently from myself. I've only used YouTube to find a specific song/artist, so the only search result I'd click on is what I was looking for. From there, the recommendations are surprisingly decent. Do you usually search for a genre or something?

Is there a reason that you don't use YouTube Music for this?

Re: Blocklist for AI Music on YouTube

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The beginning of a new kind of discrimination - call it 'synthetic racism.' AI-generated music is being dismissed outright even before listening to it, not based on quality or enjoyment but purely on its artificial origin. Just as past prejudices dismissed art based on heritage rather than merit, we're now seeing a new bias against anything not 'human-made.'

I've favorited this comment because it could easily pass for satire of certain types of comments on HN.

Re: Blocklist for AI Music on YouTube

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Show me an AI with a point of view. Show me an AI with an opinion; an aesthetic preference. Show me an AI that has emotions. Show me an AI that’s chosen to make sacrifices to produce its art. AI cannot produce art. Images are not intrinsically art. Sound is not intrinsically art. Art requires thought and intent. AI is not capable of either.

Gee let’s hope free will is real, otherwise this take gets really awkward.

I’m not worried about questions we can’t answer. I’m worried about businesses destroying artists.

Re: Blocklist for AI Music on YouTube

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Show me an AI with a point of view. Show me an AI with an opinion; an aesthetic preference. Show me an AI that has emotions. Show me an AI that’s chosen to make sacrifices to produce its art. AI cannot produce art. Images are not intrinsically art. Sound is not intrinsically art. Art requires thought and intent. AI is not capable of either.

You may get most of that by prompting. You can create really based or emotional characters even with “aligned” models (with a little realignment). Have you ever talked to an LLM that allows system prompting? Heard of [E]RP? You can even teach them to not produce idiotic bullet points. I won’t argument on the art part, but these common AI stereotypes are not true.

The AI does not possess those attributes. It’s behaving as told. It has no experience. It has no senses. It has no thoughts or ability to reason. It has no motivation.

Re: Blocklist for AI Music on YouTube

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> since then, i really started to notice that my youtube recommendations have been colonized to a very large degree by mixes made entirely out of AI generated music

Turn off your YT watch history and search history. I've advocated for this on HN for years. Watching one or two AI slop videos won't ruin your recommendations, leaving the algorithm to rely on your likes to find you stuff you'd want to watch.

Now if only YT could fix search and allow me to block Shorts.

Re: Blocklist for AI Music on YouTube

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You may get most of that by prompting. You can create really based or emotional characters even with “aligned” models (with a little realignment). Have you ever talked to an LLM that allows system prompting? Heard of [E]RP? You can even teach them to not produce idiotic bullet points. I won’t argument on the art part, but these common AI stereotypes are not true.

The AI does not possess those attributes. It’s behaving as told. It has no experience. It has no senses. It has no thoughts or ability to reason. It has no motivation.

Could we not - for the sake of argument here - surmise that, since these AIs need prompts, and usually a few rounds of refinement, and then a selection for uploading to (in this case) YouTube, that the -human- in charge of prompting/refinement/uploading has a point of view, an opinion, an aesthetic preference, emotions?

After all, there are artists that collate "samples" from other artists and produce music from all those different samples. They did not play any instrument, they merely arranged and modified these samples into a product that they presumably find pleasing.

Re: Blocklist for AI Music on YouTube

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The beginning of a new kind of discrimination - call it 'synthetic racism.' AI-generated music is being dismissed outright even before listening to it, not based on quality or enjoyment but purely on its artificial origin. Just as past prejudices dismissed art based on heritage rather than merit, we're now seeing a new bias against anything not 'human-made.'

Show me an AI with a point of view. Show me an AI with an opinion; an aesthetic preference. Show me an AI that has emotions. Show me an AI that’s chosen to make sacrifices to produce its art. AI cannot produce art. Images are not intrinsically art. Sound is not intrinsically art. Art requires thought and intent. AI is not capable of either.

Humans are not the center of the universe. There is nothing intrinsically magical in being a human. Humans don't have soul. We were not created in "God"'s image. We are not special. We are just like other animals and continuously evolving. AI is just the next step in the evolution.

All the emotion serve as a shortcut for behaviors that make evolutionary sense.

Things suck before they get better and then keep on getting better.

Re: Blocklist for AI Music on YouTube

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> since then, i really started to notice that my youtube recommendations have been colonized to a very large degree by mixes made entirely out of AI generated music Turn off your YT watch history and search history. I've advocated for this on HN for years. Watching one or two AI slop videos won't ruin your recommendations, leaving the algorithm to rely on your likes to find you stuff you'd want to watch. Now if only…

While not the best solution, I use this userscript to disable shorts— https://github.com/Mr-Comand/youtube-shorts-remover-tampermo...

Re: Blocklist for AI Music on YouTube

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Along similar lines, a blocklist for filtering AI crap out of image searches: https://github.com/laylavish/uBlockOrigin-HUGE-AI-Blocklist

These strike me as momentary throes from a technological/cultural realignment.

Back in the day there were tons of people who were totally opposed to the rising genre of "electronic" music. Today you couldn't call electronic music "not music" without drawing the ire of lots of people.

In the same vein, people opposed the internet, digital drawing tablets, digital cameras.

AI is interesting because it can be use to "just prompt", and those outputs can't be called art. But actual artists are using the technology as just another tool to accomplish even bigger things:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_SgA6ymPuc

https://www.reddit.com/r/aivideo/comments/1ihq048/i_was_ai_l...

Of course AI will still be used for slop and fan fiction, and people will endlessly try to fix Star Wars and Game of Thrones [1]. But that shouldn't be used to detract from the medium, because there will be an abundance of people doing amazing work that stands on its own legs.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfPeixY_I3w

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