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Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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Post by mytailorisrich »

martin_a wrote: post #5

As a European this is just so terrifying and fascinating to watch at the same time. I really wonder (and hope for the best) what comes out of all this. With Trump and Musk and this agency that isn't one and all the presidential orders. Will we look at this some time later and think "well, that was really stupid, do not try again" or will the world burn down over this? Crazy times.

From Europe this is especially "terrifying" because most countries have massively bigger state sectors than the US and they are very often very ineffective and wasteful. So what is happening in the US is a nightmare for some this side of the Pond because, if it does not lead to catastrophe of course (big caveat), it will give ideas...

No later that yesterday the EU Commission released this (no relation whatsoever, of course):

"we will radically lighten the regulatory load for people, businesses and administrations in the EU. To boost prosperity and resilience, the Commission will propose unprecedented simplification to unleash opportunities, innovation and growth." [1]

Hopefully this means that the EU bureaucracy is waking up.

[1] https://commission.europa.eu/law/law-making-process/planning...

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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Post by diggan »

martin_a wrote: post #5

As a European this is just so terrifying and fascinating to watch at the same time. I really wonder (and hope for the best) what comes out of all this. With Trump and Musk and this agency that isn't one and all the presidential orders. Will we look at this some time later and think "well, that was really stupid, do not try again" or will the world burn down over this? Crazy times.

> Will we look at this some time later and think "well, that was really stupid, do not try again" or will the world burn down over this?

Well, considering this is like the N-th time this happen, with the last times being extensively recorded and philosophized about, I'd say we will look back at this and say "How could that have happened? Why didn't anyone do anything?", just like we did the previous times.

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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Post by atomicnumber3 »

PaulRobinson wrote: post #29

I say this as a UKian with a constitutional monarch as head of state: These actions suggest that today the United States seems to have a de facto King with far greater powers than even those held by George III at the time the founders decided that America did not need a King. They might not be called that, but they have the ability to exert behaviours akin to an English monarch not seen much since Henry VIII. Arguabl…

The checks and balances assumed the entire country didn't vote the exact same people into majorities in all 3 branches

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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Post by pb7 »

martin_a wrote: post #5

As a European this is just so terrifying and fascinating to watch at the same time. I really wonder (and hope for the best) what comes out of all this. With Trump and Musk and this agency that isn't one and all the presidential orders. Will we look at this some time later and think "well, that was really stupid, do not try again" or will the world burn down over this? Crazy times.

Interesting how "it all works out and we realize that there was a lot of mismanagement and misappropriated funds" isn't one of your options. My money is on that one.

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Post by duxup »

atomicnumber3 wrote: post #43
PaulRobinson wrote: post #29

I say this as a UKian with a constitutional monarch as head of state: These actions suggest that today the United States seems to have a de facto King with far greater powers than even those held by George III at the time the founders decided that America did not need a King. They might not be called that, but they have the ability to exert behaviours akin to an English monarch not seen much since Henry VIII. Arguabl…

The checks and balances assumed the entire country didn't vote the exact same people into majorities in all 3 branches

SCOTUS did their part in declaring the POTUS effectively more equal than everyone else.

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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Post by Propelloni »

tyleo wrote: post #8

Is there anything we can do? I don’t mean to ask that and imply that there is nothing. I mean it as an honest question. Is there a process or organization to snap into right now to help?

There are already groups organizing protests across the land. Join one in your area. Or just show up when a demonstration is happening near you. Numbers are important.
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