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Sharing a ChatGPT Account with My Wife

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Re: Sharing a ChatGPT Account with My Wife

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>We used to struggle with financial decisions—where to invest, whether real estate was a good idea, when is the right time to buy a house, pension plans, S&P 500, Bitcoin, all of it. We never really figured it out properly. Now, we just ask AI, and it helps us structure our thinking. This one is a step too far for me. Glad it's working out for you (for now) though.

Yeah, that's absurdly scary. That's a huge social engineering/social control risk of there's a non trivial number of people using it like that...I mean imagine influencing the LLM to subtly pump and dump assets.

Isn't this what Google does already? And it throws ads at you (ranked on whichever company pays them the most)

I suspect a decent open source llm would have a lot more transparency than the current methods of coagulating collective information

Re: Sharing a ChatGPT Account with My Wife

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> Before, we browsed recipe online or watch them on youtube. Now, we just ask ChatGPT. > Even small things—if I can still eat those eggs or where to travel next—are now AI-assisted. Both of these are true for my wife and me as well. It's incredible how valuable these LLMs are for short, quick answers in the day of SEO laden crapware on the internet. For coding (side-projects), I find CLINE super valuable and use it q…

Google was like that in the early days. In a decade, datasets of authentic texts will be goldmines, carefully guarded and exploited. From those goldmines numerous AI slop-machines will be creating the derivative product: a mixture of 1% gold, 49% filler sugar and 50% ads poison. Obtaining authentic texts will be similar in difficulty to obtaining pure gold bars.

Re: Sharing a ChatGPT Account with My Wife

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>We used to struggle with financial decisions—where to invest, whether real estate was a good idea, when is the right time to buy a house, pension plans, S&P 500, Bitcoin, all of it. We never really figured it out properly. Now, we just ask AI, and it helps us structure our thinking. This one is a step too far for me. Glad it's working out for you (for now) though.

He said it “structures their thinking”. Think in terms of a Rogerian psychotherapist that just keeps asking you questions and makes you think about things you wouldn’t have thought about. He didn’t say he would use the advice.

I use ChatGPT all of the time to clarify my thoughts like this and NotebookLM actually comes up with some good questions I didn’t think about when doing discovery with a client (cloud consulting). I put all of the collected artifacts - transcripts, statements of work and anything else I collect during discovery.

Yes both ChatGPT (if we turn off sharing content for training) and NotebookLM is specifically allowed by my company and we use GSuite as our office standard

Re: Sharing a ChatGPT Account with My Wife

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This post is a good piece of evidence that the value of LLMs is driven far more by the circumstances surrounding them than by positive value they bring. All I see is a society in which people are stretched insanely thin (even the software engineers work on monetized side projects, for god's sake), where basic needs like proper education and time to focus are degrading or too expensive, where information gathering has…

I think almost all N are a suboptimal solution to what are inherently structural social problems that arise from a distribution of wealth and organization of labor where N is any technological invention of the past 20 years. Open source insulin lol the empire is collapsing.

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And even the lecturers acquiesced when they found that a lecture on the sea was none the less stimulating when compiled out of other lectures that had already been delivered on the same subject. “Beware of first-hand ideas!” exclaimed one of the most advanced of them. “First-hand ideas do not really exist. They are but the physical impressions produced by love and fear, and on this gross foundation who could erect a…

This reads like AI.

Fortunately, we can trivially verify that the quote is real and comes from a short story:

https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/72890/pg72890-images.ht...

The quote in question comes from the section "Part III: The Homeless".

Re: Sharing a ChatGPT Account with My Wife

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> when is the right time to buy a house, pension plans, S&P 500, Bitcoin, all of it. This is why I think ChatGpt can become the world's biggest ad company. Any recommendation it gives can be go through a bidding network where advertiser can bid for their keywords and ChatGpt can give the highest bidders recommendation. Of Course it needs to give good or good enough recommendation, if the quality goes down then users…

It doesn't even have to be ads. The people who run it have their own ideological sense of right and wrong. And no matter what you think of their moral stance so far, there's nothing to prevent them from changing their values in the future. If you rely on them to think, you're also letting them cordon off certain kinds of thoughts.

And this is where it gets into difficult questions around objectivity and misinformation. Because objective knowledge is more under threat now than it has ever been. And it's in part because we don't have an agreed upon consensus canon of knowledge. Or rather, there's at least skepticism of such things.

But I think there's good reasons for believing that people as individuals and through collective efforts at institutional levels are capable of doing the work of making these distinctions. And for understanding the doubts not as hard one intellectual achievements that have improved upon things, but as cynical and self-interested attempts to dispute consensus knowledge in painted as biased as is now happening with attacks on Wikipedia.

So I'm actually not concerned about our inability to do Build out and deploy reliable information. I think what I am concerned about is the financial incentives that could complicate that as well as the misinformation environment which seeks to challenge and dispute the possibility of consensus knowledge, and people impressionable to those misinformation campaigns.

Re: Sharing a ChatGPT Account with My Wife

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A pet theory of mine is that women will be better at using AI for all but the most analytical/symbolic work (even this may not hold but I'd imagine the crossover is around there) I have no mechanism but it feels true.

>I have no mechanism but it feels true.

I really, really want to make a joke here, but it would be so sexist I'd get voted down in an instant.

Re: Sharing a ChatGPT Account with My Wife

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Sorry to pick on your comment, but this type of thinking drives me crazy. How is it so baked into the culture that "enshittify with ads and do the bare minimum" is the plan at this point? What are you going to do when companies start winning based on offering good value for products with integrity? Would you blindly copy that? How long would it take? Is the drive to enshittify nature or nurture? Argh.

why just take money from the user when you can also take from advertisers? you're asking the ai questions because you don't know any better yourself, as long as the answer it gives is reasonably plausible, you'll accept it.

The amount of time Microsoft and Google wonder about how they lost me as a customer is surely 0.

Re: Sharing a ChatGPT Account with My Wife

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And even the lecturers acquiesced when they found that a lecture on the sea was none the less stimulating when compiled out of other lectures that had already been delivered on the same subject. “Beware of first-hand ideas!” exclaimed one of the most advanced of them. “First-hand ideas do not really exist. They are but the physical impressions produced by love and fear, and on this gross foundation who could erect a…

reminder that this is describing something very bad and undesirable in the novel, with an uncritical humanity living subject to a machine. read the entire novel at least before internalizing yet another torment nexus.
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