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Re: Tumblr to join the Fediverse after WordPress migration completes

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- masto.host - mastodon.green - social.lol - communick.com - cloud68.co - elest.io

I couldn’t come up with a list of URLs I’d be less likely to trust with anything without visiting them.

godaddy.com

x.com

abc.xyz

Re: Tumblr to join the Fediverse after WordPress migration completes

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I don't believe there is anything stopping someone from starting a managed Mastodon service.

It’s absurdly expensive to offer, because none of the major implementations support serving multiple domains in a single process, so you end up with a lot of duplication.

Takahe is the only one that is doing it, but unfortunately Andrew stopped working on it.

Re: Tumblr to join the Fediverse after WordPress migration completes

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After the migration can we have dicks on Tumblr again

For people who don’t know the backstory, back in the wild west days of the internet, Tumblr’s official content policy (and I’m not making this up) was “Go nuts! Show nuts. Whatever.”

When they changed it a lot of folks were unhappy https://www.tumblr.com/photomatt/696629352701493248/why-go-n...

Re: Tumblr to join the Fediverse after WordPress migration completes

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>Its federated model is not meant to give control to the end user. Can you elaborate on this? I would think giving control to the end user is exactly what a federated model would do.

Mastodon suffers from the same problem Reddit does. Moderators have too much power. A truly P2P system where the end user has 100% control over what is blocked, and furthermore where they can't be shut out in the cold by capricious mods, would be the ideal social media vehicle.

You can already control who and what you see by running your own server. If you choose to use someone else's infrastructure, don't act surprised when you're subject to their rules.

Re: Tumblr to join the Fediverse after WordPress migration completes

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I'm befuddled that Automattic is still investing in adding features (e.g. federation) to Tumblr. There's just about no chance of them actually making money from it, because its users are just about the most monetization-hostile users on the Internet. It doesn't help that the CEO actively antagonized a large portion of the site not too long ago.

Ironically, I found the opposite. Tumblr users will pay Tumblr to "blaze" posts of other users, sending the post to everyone on the platform. I don't think there are many platforms in which users are willing to give the platform money. If you asked me whether I'd give money to support Reddit, I'd say just let it crash and burn.

Very few social platforms have figured out that the right way to get money is from the readers supporting the posters, not from the posters themselves.

Reddit gold is a pale version of this. Neither Twitter nor Bluesky show any signs of getting it.

Re: Tumblr to join the Fediverse after WordPress migration completes

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I'm befuddled that Automattic is still investing in adding features (e.g. federation) to Tumblr. There's just about no chance of them actually making money from it, because its users are just about the most monetization-hostile users on the Internet. It doesn't help that the CEO actively antagonized a large portion of the site not too long ago.

Paying Tumblr user here - I'm delighted to give them money to not have adverts!

Re: Tumblr to join the Fediverse after WordPress migration completes

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Mastodon suffers from the same problem Reddit does. Moderators have too much power. A truly P2P system where the end user has 100% control over what is blocked, and furthermore where they can't be shut out in the cold by capricious mods, would be the ideal social media vehicle.

You can already control who and what you see by running your own server. If you choose to use someone else's infrastructure, don't act surprised when you're subject to their rules.

I'd agree with you, until I saw my own server on a quite popular blocklist because "admin is a cryptobro"

Re: Tumblr to join the Fediverse after WordPress migration completes

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Regarding [1], do you foresee this changing at some point? I'm interested in self hosting, bit have heard consistently that it is painful, so I've been waiting in the hopes that it will eventually improve.

Hosting Mastodon is as difficult as deploying a traditional web app: if you are familiar with docker, it's just a matter of choosing where you are going to put your database, redis and where to store media. The problem is that it is expensive. Even if you host on a cheap VPS and put your media on some object storage like Storj (~$4/TB/month), you are problably looking at a minimum of $20/month for the server. If you…

Pleroma was recommended to me as a less resource-intensive alternative to Mastodon and with less anti-features. It runs fine with one user on Hetzner's cheapest VPS.

I delete posts mirrored from other servers older than 90 days with a cron job. It has a command to do this.

Re: Tumblr to join the Fediverse after WordPress migration completes

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Can we expect another round of silly blocklists from the fediverse?

defederators are morons, but they're the same class of moron from Tumblr that invented things like the "DNI list"

You don't like free association?

Re: Tumblr to join the Fediverse after WordPress migration completes

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Hosting Mastodon is as difficult as deploying a traditional web app: if you are familiar with docker, it's just a matter of choosing where you are going to put your database, redis and where to store media. The problem is that it is expensive. Even if you host on a cheap VPS and put your media on some object storage like Storj (~$4/TB/month), you are problably looking at a minimum of $20/month for the server. If you…

Pleroma was recommended to me as a less resource-intensive alternative to Mastodon and with less anti-features. It runs fine with one user on Hetzner's cheapest VPS. I delete posts mirrored from other servers older than 90 days with a cron job. It has a command to do this.

Pleroma and GoToSocial are indeed better if you are looking for something more efficient.

But I am still not happy with the idea that we should be deleting data from the server just to keep it manageable. It reminds of the before Gmail where people would get 5MB quota of Yahoo Mail and would have to go around deleting stuff from their mailboxes every other month.

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