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Re: Gulf of America name change in the U.S.

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Post by mcv »

deng wrote: post #29
mcv wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OpenStreetMaps has excellent maps, and there are many apps that use it. Unfortunately their search is usually not that good. I use Organic Maps, and also have OsmAnd. Great maps, poor search. I'd love to know if there's an app with better search.

Well, at the moment OSM has the tag "official_name:en-US"="Gulf of America" but it changes regularly (see https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/305639190 ). How the map providers deal with this tag is up to them. There's actually a huge discussion how to deal with this. It's... complicated: https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/gulf-of-america-gulf-o...

That sounds reasonable. name:en is still "Gulf of Mexico". That way I suppose the app can choose whether to use the general English or US-specific name.

Re: Gulf of America name change in the U.S.

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Post by tocs3 »

rufus_foreman wrote: post #27
oncethishappens wrote: post #17

The name change serves zero purpose and is nothing more than political theater.

It was political theater when the Obama administration renamed Mount McKinley to Denali, but obviously they felt that it served a purpose.

The mountain has a long history of name changes and many of the changes have been political. Denali is a name that seems to have some significant local support.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denali#Naming

Re: Gulf of America name change in the U.S.

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Post by lm28469 »

latentcall wrote: post #43

So did Google have to comply with this? Couldn’t they just pretend it never happened and keep it Gulf of Mexico and never address it or respond to questions or comments about it? Also if you zoom out enough it shows the name as both.

Why would they have to comply ? They all willingly got in line to gargle trump's balls:

https://etvbharatimages.akamaized.net/etvbharat/prod-images/...

Re: Gulf of America name change in the U.S.

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Post by lm28469 »

mcv wrote: post #7

Google has been far too eager to please Trump and implement his silly ideas. I don't even think it's the president's job to name geographical features, and certainly not for the rest of the world. Someone recently pointed out that this sort of thing is a test to divide the people into two groups: those who comply, and can be counted on to comply with whatever comes next, and those who protest, and are clearly a probl…

You give them too much credit, they just follow the money/power. A few years ago it was virtue signalling about diversity &co, now we're on the other end of the spectrum, god knows what tomorrow will bring.

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Post by inejge »

marcusverus wrote: post #39
Schiendelman wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not so sure. The McKinley name for the mountain was by a prospector, ginning up support for a presidential candidate. A bunch of people showed up, started digging for gold, and just ignored the local names for things. Denali is historically relevant, and locally relevant. It seems like a reduction in politics, not a continuation.

Denali is just the word for 'tall' in some local dialect. It is not exactly pregnant with meaning. > It seems like a reduction in politics, not a continuation. That's an odd take given that there was far less political discussion around the mountain's name prior to its renaming under Obama.

> Denali is just the word for 'tall' in some local dialect. It is not exactly pregnant with meaning.

Look up the etymology of Mont Blanc or the Himalayas -- not especially pregnant with meaning either. The point is that using the local name, if it existed, was a pretty well established principle in cartography, made more conspicuous when overlooked, as with Mt. Everest. And Denali.

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Post by DamnInteresting »

inejge wrote: post #48
marcusverus wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Denali is just the word for 'tall' in some local dialect. It is not exactly pregnant with meaning. > It seems like a reduction in politics, not a continuation. That's an odd take given that there was far less political discussion around the mountain's name prior to its renaming under Obama.

> Denali is just the word for 'tall' in some local dialect. It is not exactly pregnant with meaning. Look up the etymology of Mont Blanc or the Himalayas -- not especially pregnant with meaning either. The point is that using the local name, if it existed, was a pretty well established principle in cartography, made more conspicuous when overlooked, as with Mt. Everest. And Denali.

The 'Grand Teton' mountain in Wyoming is just a French phrase meaning 'big boob'.[1] And 'McKinley' was just some politician who had never even laid eyes on his namesake lump of rock.

[1] https://www.davehansenwhitewater.com/how-the-tetons-got-thei...

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