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National Institutes of Health cuts support to universities

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Re: National Institutes of Health cuts support to universities

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Why do you think that research universities should go bankrupt? What do you think should replace their function in society?

People doing research funded by grants, rather than having 50% of their grant leeched off by a bloated administrative complex coasting on pedigree.

When the government hires a consultant, the rate charged is usually 2-3x the salary of that consultant; 50% is well below the 100-200+% rates you see all the time in business.

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It's very unclear to me how you seem to expect medical research to be done in the cloud. Overhead is crucial to create and maintain research infrastructure necessary to advance medicine and science.

I work in pharma and we do tons of medical research in the cloud and it was done before in academia; it typically wasn't my own university that developed (on its own from direct funding) the necessary infrastructure, but universities under contract, or NIH itself, or a consortia funded through grants. The university IT department itself struggled with just keeping wifi up, or giving us 10BT networks on a hub in an ag…

> I just looked up Berkeley's rates now and they explicitly have an off-campus rate that is 25%, while the on-campus is 60%. Apparently the federal government was already capping off-campus at 25%!

Off-campus is capped because the grant is then paying for rent on the lab space from the private landlord. Universities don't charge research labs for power, cooling, rent, janitorial, Internet, etc. Maybe they will start now.

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