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Re: Announcing the data.gov archive

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Post by matwood »

milesrout wrote: post #25
lou1306 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I beg you, please stop applying rule-of-law mindset against might-makes-right adversaries. It creates blind spots giving the illusion that the attack surface is way smaller than it actually is. Muskolites are taking on the SSN system without any Congressional oversight as we speak. The President is attacking ius soli which is a Constitutional right. If they decide that sending their sleuths to Cambridge MA to physica…

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Judges are literally saying Trump is ignoring the rule of law.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-judge-accuses-trump-igno...

https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-states-tell-judge-trump-not...

If you're not a bot, please get off the misinformation machine called X.

Re: Announcing the data.gov archive

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Post by matwood »

bilekas wrote: post #36
LadyCailin wrote: post #20

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In general, no. By withholding federal funds, and with owning congress and scotus, yes.

I'll admit I'm not privy to US educational system etc, but isn't Harvard a private university ? Why would they be receiving significant federal funds in the first place ?

Yeah, I'm not sure what Trump could really do here. Harvard gets With that said, the current administration appears to have a war on education in general so who knows what ideas they could cook up.

Re: Announcing the data.gov archive

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Post by input_sh »

labster wrote: post #29
milesrout wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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So it’s a delusion that the guy who tried to overthrow the vote last time will prevent the next election this time? Tyrants tried multiple times before succeeding in Athens, why not today?

Not to mention specifically saying "you won't have to vote anymore" on multiple occasions.

Re: Announcing the data.gov archive

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Post by tristor »

bilekas wrote: post #36
LadyCailin wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In general, no. By withholding federal funds, and with owning congress and scotus, yes.

I'll admit I'm not privy to US educational system etc, but isn't Harvard a private university ? Why would they be receiving significant federal funds in the first place ?

Research grants. That said, Harvard has the largest university endowment in the world, they'd be just fine operating at their current size off their endowment proceeds effectively forever.

Re: Announcing the data.gov archive

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Post by rswail »

black_puppydog wrote: post #5

Great to see there's some resistance. What I'm missing from this announcement though is any mention of how they intend to secure this "vault" against the current government. I'm assuming good intentions on the part of Harvard, but keeping this data online against the express will of the government is gonna cost (political) capital. And from what I can see, the archive is hosted by US entities on US-controlled servers…

From the announcement: "This work is made possible with support from the Filecoin Foundation for the Decentralized Web and the Rockefeller Brothers Fund."

https://fil.org/

Re: Announcing the data.gov archive

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Post by matwood »

milesrout wrote: post #27
black_puppydog wrote: post #5

Great to see there's some resistance. What I'm missing from this announcement though is any mention of how they intend to secure this "vault" against the current government. I'm assuming good intentions on the part of Harvard, but keeping this data online against the express will of the government is gonna cost (political) capital. And from what I can see, the archive is hosted by US entities on US-controlled servers…

>I'm assuming good intentions on the part of Harvard, but keeping this data online against the express will of the government is gonna cost (political) capital. Harvard like other liberal institutions has little to no political capital in a Republican white house in the first place. Why would it cost them any to host data that is in the public domain? This sort of silly overreaction is part of why people voted for Tr…

> Last time he was elected his government

I'm not sure pointing out 'last time' is such a great idea considering it ended with a violent insurrection attempt which I watch in real time. I don't need the news or anyone else to tell me that a threat to democracy is exactly what he is.

Re: Announcing the data.gov archive

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Post by [deleted] »

milesrout wrote: post #25
lou1306 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I beg you, please stop applying rule-of-law mindset against might-makes-right adversaries. It creates blind spots giving the illusion that the attack surface is way smaller than it actually is. Muskolites are taking on the SSN system without any Congressional oversight as we speak. The President is attacking ius soli which is a Constitutional right. If they decide that sending their sleuths to Cambridge MA to physica…

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Re: Announcing the data.gov archive

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Post by [deleted] »

matwood wrote: post #17
tuukkah wrote: post #13

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Take these new attack vectors into account in your threat analyses. In this specific case, perhaps start by shipping copies to non-US jurisdictions.

> Take these new attack vectors into account in your threat analyses. Exactly. And while it might not be possible to protect against all the new vectors day one, no one should be surprised.

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Re: Announcing the data.gov archive

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Post by koolba »

globalnode wrote: post #22
lou1306 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I beg you, please stop applying rule-of-law mindset against might-makes-right adversaries. It creates blind spots giving the illusion that the attack surface is way smaller than it actually is. Muskolites are taking on the SSN system without any Congressional oversight as we speak. The President is attacking ius soli which is a Constitutional right. If they decide that sending their sleuths to Cambridge MA to physica…

Im predicting no more elections for you guys in 4 years. Something makes me think theres gonna be some "reason" to turn them off.

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Re: Announcing the data.gov archive

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Post by idle_zealot »

bilekas wrote: post #36
LadyCailin wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In general, no. By withholding federal funds, and with owning congress and scotus, yes.

I'll admit I'm not privy to US educational system etc, but isn't Harvard a private university ? Why would they be receiving significant federal funds in the first place ?

We subsidize everything here. If you're important enough that the government might want to influence your behavior it has very little legal authority to demand things. Instead, we encourage behavior with tax breaks, contracts, and grants. Then we add stipulations to said breaks/funding, threatening to revoke them should the business/org in question not comply.

It's kinda like passing laws that require certain behaviors from businesses and such, except also taxpayers get their money funneled into private orgs for the privilege.

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