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Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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Post by rickette »

singhrac wrote: post #31

What is the model I get at gemini.google.com (i.e. through my Workspace subscription)? It says "Gemini Advanced" but there are no other details. No model selection option. I find the lack of clarity very frustrating. If I want to try Google's "best" model, should I be purchasing something? AI Studio seems focused around building an LLM wrapper app, but I just want something to answer my questions. Edit: what I've lea…

"what model are you using, exact name please" is usually the first prompt I enter when trying out something.

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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Post by xnorswap »

pmayrgundter wrote: post #35

I tried voice chat. It's very good, except for the politics We started talking about my plans for the day, and I said I was making chili. G asked if I have a recipe or if I needed one. I said, I started with Obama's recipe many years ago and have worked on it from there. G gave me a form response that it can't talk politics. Oh, I'm not talking politics, I'm talking chili. G then repeated form response and tried to c…

I find it horrifying and dystopian that the part where it "Can't talk politics" is just accepted and your complaint is that it interrupts your ability to talk chilli.

"Go back to bed America." "You are free, to do as we tell you"

https://youtu.be/TNPeYflsMdg?t=143

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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Post by lxgr »

rickette wrote: post #41
singhrac wrote: post #31

What is the model I get at gemini.google.com (i.e. through my Workspace subscription)? It says "Gemini Advanced" but there are no other details. No model selection option. I find the lack of clarity very frustrating. If I want to try Google's "best" model, should I be purchasing something? AI Studio seems focused around building an LLM wrapper app, but I just want something to answer my questions. Edit: what I've lea…

"what model are you using, exact name please" is usually the first prompt I enter when trying out something.

You'd be surprised at how confused some models are about who they are.

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

#46

Post by miyuru »

singhrac wrote: post #31

What is the model I get at gemini.google.com (i.e. through my Workspace subscription)? It says "Gemini Advanced" but there are no other details. No model selection option. I find the lack of clarity very frustrating. If I want to try Google's "best" model, should I be purchasing something? AI Studio seems focused around building an LLM wrapper app, but I just want something to answer my questions. Edit: what I've lea…

changes must be rolling out now, I can see 3 Gemini 2.0 models in the dropdown, with blue "new" badges.

screenshot: https://beeimg.com/images/g25051981724.png

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

#47

Post by freedomben »

lxgr wrote: post #45
rickette wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"what model are you using, exact name please" is usually the first prompt I enter when trying out something.

You'd be surprised at how confused some models are about who they are.

Indeed, asking the model which model it is might be one of the worst ways to find that information out

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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Post by mynameisvlad »

rickette wrote: post #41
singhrac wrote: post #31

What is the model I get at gemini.google.com (i.e. through my Workspace subscription)? It says "Gemini Advanced" but there are no other details. No model selection option. I find the lack of clarity very frustrating. If I want to try Google's "best" model, should I be purchasing something? AI Studio seems focused around building an LLM wrapper app, but I just want something to answer my questions. Edit: what I've lea…

"what model are you using, exact name please" is usually the first prompt I enter when trying out something.

Gemini 2.0 Flash Thinking responds with

> I am currently running on the Gemini model.

Gemini 1.5 Flash responds with

> I'm using Gemini 2.0 Flash.

I'm not even going to go on a limb here and say that question isn't going to give you an accurate response.

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

#49

Post by falcor84 »

xnorswap wrote: post #44
pmayrgundter wrote: post #35

I tried voice chat. It's very good, except for the politics We started talking about my plans for the day, and I said I was making chili. G asked if I have a recipe or if I needed one. I said, I started with Obama's recipe many years ago and have worked on it from there. G gave me a form response that it can't talk politics. Oh, I'm not talking politics, I'm talking chili. G then repeated form response and tried to c…

I find it horrifying and dystopian that the part where it "Can't talk politics" is just accepted and your complaint is that it interrupts your ability to talk chilli. "Go back to bed America." "You are free, to do as we tell you" https://youtu.be/TNPeYflsMdg?t=143

Hear, hear!

There has to be a better way about it. As I see it, to be productive, AI agents have to be able to talk about politics, because at the end of the day politics are everywhere. So following up on what they do already, they'll have to define a model's political stance (whatever it is), and to have it hold its ground, voicing an opinion or abstaining from voicing an opinion, but continuing the conversation, as a person would (at least as those of us who don't rage-quit a conversation when they hear something slightly controversial).

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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Post by freedomben »

xnorswap wrote: post #44
pmayrgundter wrote: post #35

I tried voice chat. It's very good, except for the politics We started talking about my plans for the day, and I said I was making chili. G asked if I have a recipe or if I needed one. I said, I started with Obama's recipe many years ago and have worked on it from there. G gave me a form response that it can't talk politics. Oh, I'm not talking politics, I'm talking chili. G then repeated form response and tried to c…

I find it horrifying and dystopian that the part where it "Can't talk politics" is just accepted and your complaint is that it interrupts your ability to talk chilli. "Go back to bed America." "You are free, to do as we tell you" https://youtu.be/TNPeYflsMdg?t=143

I agree it's ridiculous that the mention of a politician triggers the block so feels overly tightened (which is the story of existencer for Gemini), but the alternative is that the model will have the politics of it's creators/trainers. Is that preferable to you? (I suppose that depends on how well your politics align with Silicon Valley)
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