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Fair Pricing
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Re: Fair Pricing
#42That's great, but I can't even imagine "forgetting" to use Kagi. Completely indispensable.
Could you share what you find in kagi indispensable? Just subscribed, and looking around.
> Could you share what you find in kagi indispensable?
The academic lens is like Google Scholar, but better. The papers it surfaces are simply higher quality.
Otherwise, append your query with a question mark. The baby AI will do what Google's tries to do, except with a little more skill and better citations.
Most broadly, however, search. It's kind of wild but I forgot that searching the internet used to be fun. Kagi made it fun again.
Re: Fair Pricing
#43No good. Not fair. I put money into the account, you bill me per search - pre-paid usage based billing is the only way this can ever be "fair".
> you bill me per search
This only works at the extremes of volume. If you're targetting very-low use users, or enterprise, you can price per search. In between the frictions just don't make sense for any sensible target market.
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#44Kudos for adopting a user friendly billing policy. I would love to see the FTC mandate a policy that prohibits automatic renewal billing if the service hasn’t been used for some time.
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People can leave their computers behind for vacations and try to not use their devices during said vacations or small sabbaticals, you know.
Also, not all people use Kagi for their "search engine" per se. It also has other AI related services, so they might not need a GPU powered parrot every day, sometimes for longer periods.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
What a needlessly toxic take. > People who can't wake up without an alarm, should be late for things. > People who are busy, clearly need to be punished! > Punishment is the best way to change behavior, it's why I always hit my dog! > Humans are better at remembering and scheduling things than computers are, obviously we should require humans do these types of things even when it would be trivial to do so programmati…
> > Giving people a free pass for not paying attention to their own finances is exactly how you end up with people that are even worse at managing their finances than before. [citation needed]... because I'm pretty sure you just made that up, and it's not true at all. I am not sure what to think about this topic in a whole, but that argument isn’t much different than why we teach responsibility for kids. There might…
> I am not sure what to think about this topic in a whole, but that argument isn’t much different than why we teach responsibility for kids. There might be some truth in it.
Teaching as a whole actions (or inaction) has consequences, is different from trying to interact fairly with the world. In the above case, the punishment is so far divorced from the mistake (forgetting to cancel a subscription), that cost has nearly no chance to actually correct the behavior.
But, even if you think that anxiety and paranoia is a healthy way to go about things... This *still* wouldn't teach the correct behavior. Punishing people for mistakes does not teach them how to manage finances correctly, it teaches them fear about recurring subscriptions.
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#46Just recently i was actually thinking about this pricing approach for netflix, apple arcade or whatever else. Basically i use it so rarely that i could just subscribe when i want to watch anything, and unsubscribe immediately. This will enable subscription till end of billing period (one month). Then when i want o watch anything again then i will repeat again. And now kagi has implemented exactly this but automated f…
Not just free money. I'm pretty sure the lions' share of any streaming service's income is from users that are subscribed but don't consume everything for that month. Their business model relies on this.
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#47Just recently i was actually thinking about this pricing approach for netflix, apple arcade or whatever else. Basically i use it so rarely that i could just subscribe when i want to watch anything, and unsubscribe immediately. This will enable subscription till end of billing period (one month). Then when i want o watch anything again then i will repeat again. And now kagi has implemented exactly this but automated f…
You’re the main income source for the Netflix :)
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
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The problem is that there are still huge amounts of services with awful dark patterns out there. There’s an instagram gym clothing brand called Fabletics which is £55/month for their vip tier. They auto subscribe you with a purchase (and when I say buried in the fine print, I really do mean _buried_ in the fine print). To cancel, you have to do it between the 1st and the 4th of the month, and it’s a multi page form w…
This is not a dark pattern, this is illegal. Even the US has introduced click-to-cancel recently.
Re: Fair Pricing
#49Just recently i was actually thinking about this pricing approach for netflix, apple arcade or whatever else. Basically i use it so rarely that i could just subscribe when i want to watch anything, and unsubscribe immediately. This will enable subscription till end of billing period (one month). Then when i want o watch anything again then i will repeat again. And now kagi has implemented exactly this but automated f…
Isn‘t this the classic gym subscription example? How many people have a subscription and actually don‘t use it. There is an episode of Friends about that.
About the fair pricing: Would love to have this also for my car lease ;) But more on a weekly bases.
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#50I trialed Kagi. I liked it, the results were good, no ads, gave me access to Google without being tracked. I would pay for that, except they block Tor, and I normally use Tor.
Heya, this is Zac from Kagi.
We do not block Tor - in fact, we recently launched our own self-hosted Tor node[1].
We have had problems with GCP blocking VPN and Tor traffic (mostly the former) when we have made zero configuration to do so. It's quite frustrating, and we have been working with their support to improve this generally.
Haven't heard anyone having issues with Tor since we set up the node though :) If you give it a try, let us know how it works for you.
[1] https://help.kagi.com/kagi/getting-started/accessing-via-tor...