It does say "temporarily offline" while they adjust the transgender settings.
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It is quite literally a legal risk to ignore these orders.
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It’s illegal to defy the law here but “anti-democratic” is a huge stretch unless you know how “the public” feels on this specific issue. Clearly people voted for Trump for all sorts of reasons and do not wholly align on everything he campaigned for.
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I think it’s pretty reasonable that it might take more than 2 days to review all CDC datasets for whether they “inculcate or promote gender ideology”. If the administration wanted to avoid interruptions in access they should have provided a longer timeline.
I think they should have been more specific with their wording of the order. It does not specifically say studies or datasets, but it doesn't make it clear that they should be excluded. The actual order: - Take down all outward facing media (websites, social media accounts, etc.) that inculcate or promote gender ideology. - Withdraw any final or pending documents, directives, orders, regulations, materials, forms, co…
The order itself is poorly written, and was clearly drafted by someone who understands neither government process or the confusing reality of biological sex. For example, it seems not to acknowledge the factual biological reality of intersex people at all.
Worse, It provides no clear definitions, funding, or means to enforce compliance. Just an unreasonable and vague demand, especially when applied to the work of scientists.
It belies a middle school level understanding of the world we live in, and it's ridiculous demands should be met with only scorn and derision. This is not how functional grown ups behave, it's how angry children who believe that all complex problems have simple answers behave.
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It’s illegal to defy the law here but “anti-democratic” is a huge stretch unless you know how “the public” feels on this specific issue. Clearly people voted for Trump for all sorts of reasons and do not wholly align on everything he campaigned for.
“Defy the law” is nuanced. The government routinely operates by coming up with some aggressive interpretation of the law, doing something based on that, and seeing what happens in litigation. That was the basis of Biden’s student loan policies, opening up the border, etc. Heck, it’s the basis of our entire skilled immigration system, where we pretend like people who fully intend to seek permanent residence are genuine “nonimmigrant” temporary workers (which is what the statute says).
And these actions aren’t intruding on private citizens or the co-equal branches of government. Supervising executive branch employees is the core of the President’s role. I think Trump voters may have many disagreements on say “no taxes on tips.” I think approximately 0% want him to be anything less aggressive about the law when it comes to supervising the employees who work for him. The “Resistance” last time—which recall happened as soon as he was inaugurated—was a huge “fuck you” to them and democracy itself. It solidified the belief that democrats run the government no matter who wins the election.
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It's fun to what people pretend that they are stupid. You know very well what they meant: the people that will run the train cars regardless of the cargo. You know, the standard, widely accepted definition of "the right people".
In no way is “right people” commonly defined as “people who will commit genocide”. These types of arguments aren’t good faith and are actually quite boring.
"These types of arguments aren’t good faith and are actually quite boring."
Yes, I agree but I am tired of watching yall make them.
Re: All CDC data is no longer visible to comply with executive orders
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It’s illegal to defy the law here but “anti-democratic” is a huge stretch unless you know how “the public” feels on this specific issue. Clearly people voted for Trump for all sorts of reasons and do not wholly align on everything he campaigned for.
“Defy the law” is nuanced. The government routinely operates by coming up with some aggressive interpretation of the law, doing something based on that, and seeing what happens in litigation. That was the basis of Biden’s student loan policies, opening up the border, etc. Heck, it’s the basis of our entire skilled immigration system, where we pretend like people who fully intend to seek permanent residence are genuin…
I’m not sure how the first part of your comment is related. I was referring to the potential defying of Trump’s orders by CDC employees (the topic).
The main point was about “anti-democratic” which again only makes sense if you know that it is the public’s will that e.g. the CDC data is dismantled (the topic). You still haven’t given a convincing argument that that is true, other than “I think approximately 0%..” Do you have anything more substantial than “I think”, because _I think_ millions of voters voted vaguely on “the economy” and “immigration” and don’t en-masse support something like “less CDC data”.
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“Defy the law” is nuanced. The government routinely operates by coming up with some aggressive interpretation of the law, doing something based on that, and seeing what happens in litigation. That was the basis of Biden’s student loan policies, opening up the border, etc. Heck, it’s the basis of our entire skilled immigration system, where we pretend like people who fully intend to seek permanent residence are genuin…
I’m not sure how the first part of your comment is related. I was referring to the potential defying of Trump’s orders by CDC employees (the topic). The main point was about “anti-democratic” which again only makes sense if you know that it is the public’s will that e.g. the CDC data is dismantled (the topic). You still haven’t given a convincing argument that that is true, other than “I think approximately 0%..” Do…
You’re saying he’s “defying the law.” My point is that I’m sure he has legal eggheads invoking aggressive interpretations of the law, like every administration does.
Regarding the second point, one of Trump’s main pitches was to revert the use of progressive social theories and terminology in government. Of course it’s going to take some time to clean up the web pages.
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In no way is “right people” commonly defined as “people who will commit genocide”. These types of arguments aren’t good faith and are actually quite boring.
"These types of arguments aren’t good faith and are actually quite boring." Yes, I agree but I am tired of watching yall make them.
Did you just "I know you are, but what am I?"