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Re: Meta in talks to reincorporate in Texas or another state, WSJ reports

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Seems like there is a multi-industry push to move into Texas; came across a video the other day of Matthew McConaughey & Woody Harrelson (and other big name actors) reprising their True Detective role calling for the Texas legislature to increase incentives that bring Hollywood productions over to Texas. [1] https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/matthew... [2] https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/matthew-m…

Why TF does everyone want to be in Texas heat or not be able to go outside?

They don't. They're currently incorporated in Delaware, but HQ is (and will remain, so far) in California.

> The paperwork change would not relocate its corporate headquarters. A Meta spokesperson said that it does not plan on shifting its corporate headquarters out of Menlo Park, California, but declined to comment on reincorporation when contacted by Reuters.

Re: Meta in talks to reincorporate in Texas or another state, WSJ reports

#42

Seems like there is a multi-industry push to move into Texas; came across a video the other day of Matthew McConaughey & Woody Harrelson (and other big name actors) reprising their True Detective role calling for the Texas legislature to increase incentives that bring Hollywood productions over to Texas. [1] https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/matthew... [2] https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/matthew-m…

Why TF does everyone want to be in Texas heat or not be able to go outside?

Cheap housing and permissive regulations

Re: Meta in talks to reincorporate in Texas or another state, WSJ reports

#43
post #13

I can't imagine what it's like at Meta right now, with the CEO publicly stating that they're firing the bottom 5% of performers and then a week later stating that the LLMs that his researchers / engineers are working on will soon be able to replace them. Zuck needs Yann LeCun and other senior researchers at Meta a lot more than they need him. If they were to quit there would be a line out the door to hand them as muc…

> a week later stating that the LLMs that his researchers / engineers are working on will soon be able to replace them. This is a pessimistic interpretation of Mark's words that has been trumpeted in the media. Which I am appalled to admit. He said that they anticipate the majority of new code to come from AI models rather than human engineers. He then adds that they expect developers to be augmented by these tools.…

I'm talking about this: https://www.threads.net/@zuck/post/DFNf73PJxOQ

> "...we'll build an AI engineer that will start contributing increasing amounts of code to our R&D efforts".

What do you think will happen when these models are good enough to do 90% of engineering work? He's already putting a squeeze on his employees now (https://africa.businessinsider.com/news/meta-ceo-mark-zucker...)

> "I think whoever gets there first is going to have a long-term, durable advantage towards building one of the most important products in history," Zuckerberg said, according to the recording.

> Zuckerberg also reiterated his belief that this would be the year Meta started seeing AI agents take on work, including writing software. Asked whether this would lead to job cuts, Zuckerberg said it was "hard to know" and that while it may lead to some roles becoming redundant, it could lead to hiring more engineers who can harness artificial intelligence to be more productive.

Re: Meta in talks to reincorporate in Texas or another state, WSJ reports

#44

Not surprising, and I expect more of this in the decade to come. It feels like we’re finally seeing companies begin to draw lines in the sand on where their interests actually lay: power (which Texas grants in spades), profit (which Delaware has historically protected), or values (in which case they would incorporate/move to a place that aligns with said values - of which vanishingly few companies do). If anything, i…

> profit (which Delaware has historically protected), or values (in which case they would incorporate/move to a place that aligns with said values - of which vanishingly few companies do). Which values exactly are being expressed by being incorporated in, say, California? I can totally see how companies that chafe at the requirements imposed on them by some of these high-government states would choose to leave so the…

> Which values exactly are being expressed by being incorporated in, say, California?

Depends on when. The whole point is that the incentives, and signal generated by responding to them, are changing a bunch.

Just my opinion, but between ~2008 and ~2016, incorporating in CA could at least potentially be read as "We're really serious about hiring the best talent and doing an unusually good job, to the point that we're willing to pay a premium."

Implied in the above is the idea that paying said premium would result in success that strongly outweighed the costs, and that you could more or less keep that success, without putting a huge target on ones back for additional taxation, regulation, social stigma, etc. California was highly regulated and expensive, but not quite punitively regulated and expensive.

Over time, that signal has weakened. The relationship between SV and CA feels more actively hostile. people do what everyone's doing, or really want to be near VCs and other network effects. These things have always been true, they've just lost the cover provided by that other more grand and inspiring explanation. despite the drawbacks I do think it's still the best place to start a very small tech startup. The pool of both talent and peer companies is completely unmatched, even in other large tech cities.

One thing that's hard to decouple: to what degree is this shift because of the regulatory and social environments becoming authentically hostile to tech (on many fronts: taxation, gentrification, looseness-for-speed, etc), and to what degree does it just seem that way to people that get some combination of cash and dopamine from shifting to see the world through that lens? IMO both things have certainly occurred, but I'm less sure of the proportions.

Edit — another thing that's very interesting to me: massive ideological decoupling in the C-suite vs IC classes. My experience during that time period felt much more "flat", both hierarchically and ideologically. I started out as a random intern and not only was it very easy to get in the room with some staggeringly rich and brilliant people, I genuinely felt a very strong and natural vibe-compatibility with them. They mostly seemed regular. Thiel was an exception, but only mildly. Intense vibes, but decent ones. I'd have guessed that as I aged out of my 20s and became more successful that I would, if anything, be better able to relate to some of those big dogs. Not the case at all. I think back then both classes were less aware that one was or was becoming an inhumane robber barron. Both sides know that now.

Re: Meta in talks to reincorporate in Texas or another state, WSJ reports

#45
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> Let the people vote with their feet. And if they have 3 feet because they grew up near Love Canal: they can vote with their feet 50% faster! How great is that!

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Re: Meta in talks to reincorporate in Texas or another state, WSJ reports

#46

Not surprising, and I expect more of this in the decade to come. It feels like we’re finally seeing companies begin to draw lines in the sand on where their interests actually lay: power (which Texas grants in spades), profit (which Delaware has historically protected), or values (in which case they would incorporate/move to a place that aligns with said values - of which vanishingly few companies do). If anything, i…

> profit (which Delaware has historically protected), or values (in which case they would incorporate/move to a place that aligns with said values - of which vanishingly few companies do). Which values exactly are being expressed by being incorporated in, say, California? I can totally see how companies that chafe at the requirements imposed on them by some of these high-government states would choose to leave so the…

Maybe if you are a non profit based in CA. There's probably some other corner cases I'm not aware of, like it might be simpler in some cases like an LLC for holding family property, etc.

Re: Meta in talks to reincorporate in Texas or another state, WSJ reports

#47
post #37

Is it a mental illness if a billionaire many times over still wants more money ?

Billions of dollars is beyond human comprehension. We handle it better with 1,000 millions. But then the human mind thinks about things on a scale of millions of dollars being a minute amount.... which is not how the general populations thinks about personal expenditures.

Re: Meta in talks to reincorporate in Texas or another state, WSJ reports

#48
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are limits to when and for how long you are allowed to close roads for specific purposes, just as there are limits to when and where you can launch rockets of specific sizes. SpaceX ignored the rules, and nobody enforces them despite the protests from residents of Boca Chica. Obviously the Texas government agrees with you that the law is whatever they choose to enforce, but there are still written rules.

And if the laws are on the books, it makes legal action against the state - as well as the offender - likelier and more remunerative.

One would think, but the FAA consistently failed to do much more than submit letters to SpaceX, which resulted in the FAA themselves being investigated. I don't think much ever came out of that. Only in the past year has the FAA been actively concerned about whatever SpaceX does, and coincidentally, Elon Musk demanded the FAA administrator resign, who promptly did.

Re: Meta in talks to reincorporate in Texas or another state, WSJ reports

#50
post #13

I can't imagine what it's like at Meta right now, with the CEO publicly stating that they're firing the bottom 5% of performers and then a week later stating that the LLMs that his researchers / engineers are working on will soon be able to replace them. Zuck needs Yann LeCun and other senior researchers at Meta a lot more than they need him. If they were to quit there would be a line out the door to hand them as muc…

I'm not sure what's keeping LeCun at Meta at this point. I can imagine he's not happy with Zuck's capitulation. I'm sure you're right that if he decided to leave he'd easily be able to get funding. I'm sure France would be willing to set him up with an AI research lab to get him back there. And there would be plenty of other companies/labs that would be trying to get him.
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