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A Young Man Used AI to Build a Nuclear Fusor

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Re: A Young Man Used AI to Build a Nuclear Fusor

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Post by notahacker »

Etheryte wrote: post #8
Y_Y wrote: post #5

Why use AI to make good content, when you can take unremarkable content and add the string "AI" to pretend it's interesting. You could have just done an old-school web search for this! https://www.instructables.com/How-to-Build-a-Fusion-Reactor-... https://makezine.com/projects/nuclear-fusor/ https://fusor.net/board/viewtopic.php?t=3247 The "artificially intelligent" aspect is trivial.

The trick is to still use the same underlying information, but forwarded to you by a large language model, that way you can take most of the credit yourself. How unsensational of an article would it be, if you said you followed a step by step guide and built the thing the guide built before. But slap an LLM between yourself and the tutorial and now you can suddenly say you built something with the help of AI. Weird t…

Yeah. The people who conduct bedroom experiments "with AI" are basically the same people who would have conducted bedroom experiments with the help of web pages and YouTube five years ago, or with books if they could get hold of them 30 years ago.

And actually, I'm not sure the switch from one ubiquitous digital format to another lossier one is the big step change here....

Re: A Young Man Used AI to Build a Nuclear Fusor

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Post by brabel »

latexr wrote: post #30
test1235 wrote: post #22

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I went to check what FortiGuard is: > FortiGuard Labs provides (…) AI-powered threat intelligence (…) Ah, that explains it. The article is just a Substack with a custom domain, this sounds like an error on their part, not something the author can or should concern themselves with.

It's AIs all the way down.

Re: A Young Man Used AI to Build a Nuclear Fusor

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Post by stevage »

llm_trw wrote: post #12

>HudZah was told that he could be killed by the high voltage, X-ray radiation and possibly other things. This only made him more excited. “My whole intention was, ‘If I fuck up, I’m dead, and this is why I should do it,’” he said. It sounds like he got exactly what he wanted to. >I must admit, though, that the thing that scared me most about HudZah was that he seemed to be living in a different technological universe…

Wow, I've never heard anything like this before. Is this really a thing? People disappearing because they're so deep down the rabbit hole with AI and don't need to talk to anyone?

Re: A Young Man Used AI to Build a Nuclear Fusor

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Post by stevage »

By far the most interesting part of this post is this stuff:

> It’s more that I was watching HudZah navigate his laptop with an AI fluency that felt alarming to me. He was using his computer in a much, much different way than I’d seen someone use their computer before, and it made me feel old and alarmed by the number of new tools at our disposal and how HudZah intuitively knew how to tame them.

I often feel like a complete newb with AI tools, but I don't really know how to level up. I'd love to watch someone like this, just to see what's possible.

Re: A Young Man Used AI to Build a Nuclear Fusor

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Post by Maken »

Y_Y wrote: post #5

Why use AI to make good content, when you can take unremarkable content and add the string "AI" to pretend it's interesting. You could have just done an old-school web search for this! https://www.instructables.com/How-to-Build-a-Fusion-Reactor-... https://makezine.com/projects/nuclear-fusor/ https://fusor.net/board/viewtopic.php?t=3247 The "artificially intelligent" aspect is trivial.

This project seems complex enough that following a guide is not enough, and you will likely have to swap unavailable with equivalent ones, for which you need at least a basic understanding of what you are doing.

HudZah is seemly using the AI as a search engine for the reference materials he collected for the project, which is a legit use of the technology.

Re: A Young Man Used AI to Build a Nuclear Fusor

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Post by bloomingkales »

lupusreal wrote: post #37
phito wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've seen a lot of that happening recently. People claiming they did this and that, when they actually followed the steps from a LLM. I actually don't mind this, except for the part where they omit the use of a LLM to get all the credits to themselves. Reminds me of all these YouTubers making video essays parotting something they have just learned, without actually mastering the subject.

There are so many relatively popular youtube channels making 10 to 20 minute videos about interesting subjects which say nothing more than the Wikipedia page for that topic. Whole channels, well liked by the algorithm, built off paraphrasing Wikipedia without citing it. Being generous to them, some of them do a good job of picking topics I wouldn't have thought to look up myself. They probably do spend a lot of time…

It’s probably low effort scripts that are performed by influencers. The scripts are probably not written by the influencers because the influencer usually brings the looks, voice acting, and charm.

Re: A Young Man Used AI to Build a Nuclear Fusor

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Post by SecretDreams »

Maken wrote: post #45
Y_Y wrote: post #5

Why use AI to make good content, when you can take unremarkable content and add the string "AI" to pretend it's interesting. You could have just done an old-school web search for this! https://www.instructables.com/How-to-Build-a-Fusion-Reactor-... https://makezine.com/projects/nuclear-fusor/ https://fusor.net/board/viewtopic.php?t=3247 The "artificially intelligent" aspect is trivial.

This project seems complex enough that following a guide is not enough, and you will likely have to swap unavailable with equivalent ones, for which you need at least a basic understanding of what you are doing. HudZah is seemly using the AI as a search engine for the reference materials he collected for the project, which is a legit use of the technology.

> HudZah is seemly using the AI as a search engine for the reference materials he collected for the project, which is a legit use of the technology.

So how would we feel if the headline for this (and many other articles) was:

X uses search engine to find data required to do Y?

Re: A Young Man Used AI to Build a Nuclear Fusor

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Post by vladms »

bloomingkales wrote: post #36
phito wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've seen a lot of that happening recently. People claiming they did this and that, when they actually followed the steps from a LLM. I actually don't mind this, except for the part where they omit the use of a LLM to get all the credits to themselves. Reminds me of all these YouTubers making video essays parotting something they have just learned, without actually mastering the subject.

I think we seek to credit the source for reasons that are not clear. Do you feel any which way if I suggest to you your carrot soup only tastes good because of the carrots you put in it? With the follow up question being, why don’t you admit you put carrots in it? We don’t really do this because there’s no concept of ownership of food to that degree. Maybe 200 years ago, where a farmer may chew you out since he toile…

> I think we seek to credit the source for reasons that are not clear.

For me a source means I can verify some claims, find another opinion/presentation, are able to view other work based on that source.

It is the difference between having links between web pages or having only independent web pages. I guess we can all agree there is value in having the information "X was based on Y".

The reason people do not credit can also be that they don't add any value. If the original source is more complete, more correct and better presented then they might "loose" their perceived value. Does this happen in all cases? Probably not. But it is my first instinct when I see it (happens a lot to "news" article as well for example, when talking about papers, university announcements, etc, things that could be easily "linked")

Re: A Young Man Used AI to Build a Nuclear Fusor

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