Live data from Hacker News

Emotional support across adulthood: A 60-year study of men’s social networks

psypost.org

41–50 of 191 posts

Re: Emotional support across adulthood: A 60-year study of men’s social networks

#41
post #4

"Emotional support networks among men shrink by 50% between the ages of 30 and 90, reflecting an average decrease from two to one emotional support providers" Or, to rephrase, "Men grow up with an average of two emotional support providers and lose one in mid to late adulthood"

Is this to be interpreted as most men have two parents, and in adulthood one of them dies? Or, men have a parent they are close with plus a spouse, and then the parent dies?

[deleted]

Re: Emotional support across adulthood: A 60-year study of men’s social networks

#43
post #5
post #4

"Emotional support networks among men shrink by 50% between the ages of 30 and 90, reflecting an average decrease from two to one emotional support providers" Or, to rephrase, "Men grow up with an average of two emotional support providers and lose one in mid to late adulthood"

Any idea how many women have? The form of this study was specific to men and very long-running, so I don't know where you'd get comparable data. Still, it would be interesting to take a stab at it. Is it 2? 1? 10?

Anecdotally I'd say I can't imagine living with like, one or two people I turn to for emotional support. Would be a nightmare. I know probably 20 or 30 people I could turn to if I needed something, even just to vent.

I wouldn't even necessarily say I'm that close with most of them. It's sort of just... table stakes?

Re: Emotional support across adulthood: A 60-year study of men’s social networks

#44
post #9

Only half? Thats a really wide range too. By 90 it is increasingly likely your spouse and close friends are mostly dead. My emotional support network consists of two people, my long-term partner and my parent(s). My long term partner loves me conditionally (and don’t let anyone fool you into thinking that this is abnormal). Only your parents might love you unconditionally, and they have a pretty decent head start wit…

This is sadly true, my long term partner left me last night. I really thought it would go the distance, and I’m almost not sad - it’s just typical

Hope you do something kind for yourself to feel better <3

Re: Emotional support across adulthood: A 60-year study of men’s social networks

#45

You guys are getting emotional support???

[flagged]

Need? Perhaps not. But outcomes improve, as explained by the article:

“Emotional support, defined as providing comfort and understanding, is essential for well-being, particularly in older adults, where it predicts better cognitive health, emotional stability, and life expectancy”

Sometimes there are good reasons for things beyond necessity.

Re: Emotional support across adulthood: A 60-year study of men’s social networks

#46
post #9

Only half? Thats a really wide range too. By 90 it is increasingly likely your spouse and close friends are mostly dead. My emotional support network consists of two people, my long-term partner and my parent(s). My long term partner loves me conditionally (and don’t let anyone fool you into thinking that this is abnormal). Only your parents might love you unconditionally, and they have a pretty decent head start wit…

> My long term partner loves me conditionally I've come to learn the only unconditional love is that between parent-child

Even that can be conditional. Parents deliberately remove themselves from their children's lives sometimes for various reasons. Child is gay/trans or othered in some other way. Child commits some serious crime, etc.

It could also be the parent is too much of a mess(drug addict, etc) that they can't love their child.

Re: Emotional support across adulthood: A 60-year study of men’s social networks

#47

We get an emotional support network? Nobody told me.

I know it's supposed to be a joke but it actually encapsulates one of the core issues about this already on the language level, men thinking they'd "get" something out of thin air. Do you think women have 31.41x larger emotional support networks out of thin air? Of course not, they put the effort in. Men don't.

Re: Emotional support across adulthood: A 60-year study of men’s social networks

#49

> This research was limited by its all-male, predominantly White sample and its reliance on self-reported data. Additionally, the quality of emotional support and its impacts on well-being were not assessed. So: we don’t know if it’s just men, we don’t know if it’s true for all ethnicities or just white men, it’s a reduction from two to one, I don’t mean to be dismissive, but someone got funding for this?

That's basically the critique that some weigh against huge swathes of psychology-adjacent research (among other domains), but is quite hard to overcome in practice, so money keeps flowing because its the established norm and because many people would rather have low-confidence pseudoscientific insights than no "scientific" insights at all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychology#WEIRD_bias

Re: Emotional support across adulthood: A 60-year study of men’s social networks

#50

I am doing my PhD and occasionally my supervisor and I come across papers that don't have any meaningful results/statistics but you gotta publish somehow. Like, they conclude with "We observed that the latency can be reduced by 2x-300x." I feel like the group that did this research spent a decade, and their supervisor was like, well, we gotta publish something. Choose an age interval that fits the whole data. 30-90.

Exactly what I thought put into words. There is not even a comparison to the obvious first question. Do women have the same effects or is it limited to men?
Post reply on HN