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Absolute no brainer, he should be celebrated. Countless lives were saved via the harm reduction effect of a peer reviewed, reputation based platform. Of course if we had less draconian drug policy, it wouldn't be necessary but here we are.

> Countless lives were saved via the harm reduction effect of a peer reviewed, reputation based platform.

The basic immorality/pointlessness of the war on drugs aside, I don't know how you can assert this: it's not like there's a chain of provenance, and there's no particular guarantee that whatever grade of pure drugs was sold on Silk Road is the same purity that ended up in peoples' bodies.

My understanding of the Silk Road case is that, at its peak, it was servicing a significant portion of the international drug market. The dimensions of that market include adulteration; Silk Road almost certainly didn't change that.

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Absolute no brainer, he should be celebrated. Countless lives were saved via the harm reduction effect of a peer reviewed, reputation based platform. Of course if we had less draconian drug policy, it wouldn't be necessary but here we are.

Does trump also support needle exchanges and safe consumption sites?

As well as online drug marketplaces? Or would running one without legal trouble require a campaign-contribution booster pack?

What a beautiful political anschluss between people who just want to ban contraceptives and abortifacients, and people who just want to shoot up heroin. Not sure how you square that circle[1], but it's 2025, and here we are.

It's very telling about libertarian priorities when a cryptobro running an online drug marketplace who tried to hire a hitman gets amnesty, while hundreds of thousands of people who have been convicted of drug possession[1] do not. Likewise, somehow reproductive rights are just not a libertarian issue, either. It's not a party of freedom, it's a party of freedom for wealthy men.

[1] Biden gave a blanket pardon for people convicted of marijuana posession, but that's far less important for libertarians than Ulbricht.

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Absolute no brainer, he should be celebrated. Countless lives were saved via the harm reduction effect of a peer reviewed, reputation based platform. Of course if we had less draconian drug policy, it wouldn't be necessary but here we are.

There is absolutely no way harm reduction was the reason Trump pardoned him.

It's absolutely one of the reasons why it was politically beneficial for him to enact the pardon.

Re: Ross Ulbricht granted a full pardon

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Wasn’t he in jail for hiring a contract killer? I’m all for the freeing him of his crimes when it comes to his crypto anarchic philosophy. But I find it hard to pardon someone for contract killing essentially. Also I’m not an apologist for the FBIs handling of this case either.

No, that charge was dropped. IIRC, it was on shaky ground and they were just trying to throw the book at him.

The charge was dropped, but the court did hold a hearing on it when deciding on sentencing. They heard the evidence for and against and ruled by a preponderance of the evidence that he did in fact do it.

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Paraphrasing an aphorism I saw elsewhere: "Crime is legal now".

“If a law is unjust a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so” - Thomas Jefferson

Is it unjust to prohibit the sale of illegal drugs, weapons, etc.? Society has good reasons for regulating certain goods. I regularly see people in my community who are enslaved by fentanyl and I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. The society I live in decided to make selling it illegal. What is unjust about that?

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I had no idea this was a campaign promise. Why? I don’t understand.

Trump went around to a huge number of niche communities and promised to fix their core concerns in exchange for their support. The crypto and libertarian communities are obsessed with freeing Ulbricht. It was honestly a brilliant strategy, and probably the reason he won. Ironic that an authoritarian fascist was able to get elected by enlisting the help of anti-authoritarian communities with a single issue promise.

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Trump refused to pardon Assange and Snowden. I suppose he has priorities. In 2021, presumably during SBF's (big Democrat donor) FTX scam, Trump thought that Bitcoin was a scam: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-57392734 Now he is best friends with the "crypto", AI, and H1B bros.

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Yep. He's not opposed to a scam so long as he's on the money-receiving side of it.
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