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UK's hardware talent is being wasted

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Re: UK's hardware talent is being wasted

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Post by rwmj »

marbro wrote: post #27

Why don't all British hardware engineers move to the United States? What keeps them in Britain?

It's practically very difficult to move to the US. Getting a visa is hard even in the best case (with a helpful sponsor). And if you're in any way settled in the UK (partner, house, possessions, etc) then you've got multiple other problems to solve.

Re: UK's hardware talent is being wasted

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Post by corimaith »

marbro wrote: post #27

Why don't all British hardware engineers move to the United States? What keeps them in Britain?

Immigrating to USA is hard, probably one of the hardest because competition is so high. Tbh I'd recommend going someplace like Hong Kong whose government is starved for talent and pays similar when balancing for tax but similar social services.

Re: UK's hardware talent is being wasted

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Post by GamerAlias »

backwardsmoo wrote: post #18
pinoy420 wrote: post #2

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Outside of finance, I generally find UK software and hardware comp to be abysmal. Especially when contrasted to the US, and even Germany. For reference, I hold a doctorate in Engineering and a Class 1 MEng both at Oxford. I was offered £40k to work as an engineer in my niche (photonics). My lab partner who went to Germany sits on a ~€90k salary doing similar to what I would have done. Due to the limitations of hardwa…

If you are looking to move, reach out

Re: UK's hardware talent is being wasted

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Post by corimaith »

rwmj wrote: post #31
gjsman-1000 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, yeah, the meme copy-paste problem diagnosis, but what’s the solution? Rebuild into socialism? Rebuild into communism? Reset into early stage capitalism (lack of regulation and all)? How do you know that those systems won’t also have their own late stage failure? Case in point, the NHS right now. (Edit, posting too fast: To the person below who suggested 90% tax rates; the US never had those rates. On paper they…

Cracking down on monopolies and rentierism would be a good start. Followed by tying pension rises to worker's salaries. None of that is actually going to happen because of who votes combined with a government that's scared of its own shadow.

Well everytime somebody wants to build high density housing or really anything to alleviate the housing crisis we get the usual NIMBY screaming similar to OP about evil corporations coming to destroy the character of their local neighborhood.

Re: UK's hardware talent is being wasted

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Post by aylmao »

marbro wrote: post #27

Why don't all British hardware engineers move to the United States? What keeps them in Britain?

Some people don’t focus primarily on the money. When that’s the case, many things (love, pride, comfort, dreams, fears, etc) might keep someone from moving.

Re: UK's hardware talent is being wasted

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Post by nextos »

refrigerator wrote: post #19

This is spot on. All the smart and ambitious people I know who studied (non-software) Engineering at university in the UK have ended up going into software engineering via self-teaching or finance/consulting because the only hardware engineering career paths seem to be working for Rolls Royce in the middle of nowhere with terrible pay, or alternatively working at Jaguar Land Rover in the middle of nowhere with terrib…

To some extent, this also applies to software. Except for DeepMind and a few other select places like Altos Labs, getting past £100k is hard, especially outside London. Unless you go into finance, of course. But then, you have to stick to London. Finance is like a black hole that sucks a big chunk of the mathematical, CS and statistical UK talent. They have very proactive recruiters trying to e.g. connect with Oxbridge students when they are approaching graduation.
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