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TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

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Re: TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

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Post by repeekad »

ripped_britches wrote: post #22

For those saying there’s no executive order yet or that Trump is not president yet, the point is that they received confirmation that there will be an executive order, meaning they can rely on a 90 day extension of non-enforcement. So while there is some irony with Trump having previously supported the ban, the practical reality is that he and Susquehanna and the Republicans all are winning big on this one, from a po…

The issue is Trump doesn’t have legal authority to issue an executive order delaying the ban, executive orders “execute” the law, delaying would be the opposite of the law, a law that was held up 9–0 as constitutional by the Supreme Court face palm

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Post by silvestrov »

dataflow wrote: post #35
spicyusername wrote: post #30

Man, the current democratic party just does not know how to solve problems in a way that people appreciate. Absurd that the Republicans are somehow going to swoop in and "Save the day" on an issue they themselves championed.

> Man, the current democratic party just does not know how to solve problems in a way that people appreciate. What would have been a solution to the problem that people would have appreciated?

Publish the algorithm. Allow users to choose which algorithm they want to use.

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Post by Buttons840 »

The TikTok debate has always been about the balance between national security and free speech.

We found a compromise. TikTok will remain, all of its national security risks will remain. Also, the law that tramples free speech is upheld by the court, but will be blantently ignored and unenforced.

Everybody loses. This outcome is worse than anyone could have conceived.

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Post by patcon »

mrtksn wrote: post #12

Amazing stunt: The establishment tried to limit freedom of speech and Trump saved the day. Probably a pre-agreed sequence of events. Never mind that it was him who initially trued to ban it. Nevertheless a positive development.

You think TikTok is beneficial or even neutral?

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Post by braiamp »

dataflow wrote: post #35
spicyusername wrote: post #30

Man, the current democratic party just does not know how to solve problems in a way that people appreciate. Absurd that the Republicans are somehow going to swoop in and "Save the day" on an issue they themselves championed.

> Man, the current democratic party just does not know how to solve problems in a way that people appreciate. What would have been a solution to the problem that people would have appreciated?

A privacy law, for starters.

Re: TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

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Post by rayiner »

spicyusername wrote: post #30

Man, the current democratic party just does not know how to solve problems in a way that people appreciate. Absurd that the Republicans are somehow going to swoop in and "Save the day" on an issue they themselves championed.

My 12 year old daughter was cranky this morning about Tik Tok being banned, then walked in ecstatic it was working again. I’m like “I wonder if Trump fixed Tik Tok,” and sure enough. She gave me a high five. My 6 year old son is already MAGA because the boys in his class love Trump.

Like inflation, this was a problem Trump created and now he’s getting credit for fixing it.

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Post by qingcharles »

kj4ips wrote: post #20
ipsum2 wrote: post #5

There was no executive order. Turning off Tiktok yesterday was a highly successful political stunt.

There is, it's a few days old, and it's a non-enforcement from the Biden administration, according to the man himself and his staffers, he intends to let it be the next administration's problem. Whatever the next administration does when it takes power is yet to be seen. The restrict act was written really strangely, and I assume Oracle required some assurance from someone to not just delete Bytedance's accounts and…

That wasn't an executive order, as far as I'm aware it was just a statement. It had no legal value, which was why TikTok asked for more assurance.

The fine to each company (Apple, Google, Oracle, TikTok) was in the order of around $5bn each if they kept the lights on, so I would be hesitant to keep it running too without something in writing.

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Post by whatshisface »

amazingamazing wrote: post #33
mikeweiss wrote: post #25

Trump and team may be the biggest public relations masterminds of all time. They realize that the populous is fickle and easily won over with obvious stunts. Define the villains and play the hero. It keeps working for him over and over and over. Truly incredible.

I really hate Trump, but the guy is a media (read: not political) genius. I doubt there will ever be someone like him in the Republican, or any party again.

A little over 100 years ago the massively popular party enemy #1 T.R. was running roughshod over the republican convention.
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