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I ditched the algorithm for RSS

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Re: I ditched the algorithm for RSS

#41

I've been meaning to get back on the RSS wagon. I ran TT-RSS some years ago and it fell apart at one time due to my lack of time to maintain it. Is TT-RSS still the go-to, or is there something else I should take a look at?

No, fresh RSS is heck of a lot better.

Re: I ditched the algorithm for RSS

#42
post #37

I'm a fan of RSS too. Some people I know use substack to write. I would ideally like to use kill-the-newsletter for that but I had trouble with delivery with substack. Fortunately, these days LLMs are quite quick so I was able to whip up a little tool that does this for myself: https://github.com/roshan/superheap It's incomplete but sufficient. LLMs drop the cost of software to near zero. I barely had to learn anythi…

> I would ideally like to use kill-the-newsletter for that but I had trouble with delivery with substack.

Substack does indeed seem to have kill-the-newsletter banned, but (at least for free posts) it actually provides an RSS feed out of the box, so you should be able to just chuck the address of the blog’s home page into your RSS reader and have it figure things out for you. I haven’t seen this capability advertised anywhere (and the days of the RSS icon in your address bar are sadly long gone), but it does exist.

(Incidentally, Buttondown also has RSS feeds built in.)

Re: I ditched the algorithm for RSS

#43
I started using RSS in ~2007, and I haven't stopped. I think i used thunderbird first, then google reader, then feedly, then a self-hosted freshrss for the last few years.

I have a graveyard of old blogs and webcomics whose URLs I can't bear to delete. I have a crapton of feeds still happily churning out articles.

Re: I ditched the algorithm for RSS

#44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you “open original to view full content” and then use browser back to get to your page, the back history is removed and you can’t click back again to get to your main page. Makes it hard to navigate. Love the site.

Not sure I understand. The "open original.." is a plain link with target="_blank", and Minifeed is a pure classic HTML web app with zero JS shenanigans. There is nothing which can manipulate the history. Since the link opens in a new tab by default (because of target="_blank"), that new tab naturally does not have a "back" history. Is this what you mean?

I wish target="_blank" had never been invented. I'll decide for myself if I want a new tab, thank you very much. I've never found an extension that filters out this garbage properly. There's one appropriately called "Death To _blank", but so much still slips through.

Re: I ditched the algorithm for RSS

#45
My modus operandi for finding a non-obvious RSS feed is to check the Wayback Machine's list of saved URLs and search for "RSS", "feed", or "XML". That normally will find the feed as long as it exists.

Re: I ditched the algorithm for RSS

#46

Apologies for promoting my project again (did this in at least 2 other threads related to RSS), but I'm weirdly proud of it: I'm curating a list of human-written blogs on my blog reader/discovery/search engine called Minifeed: https://minifeed.net/blogs/ There's an OPML export available as well: https://minifeed.net/blogs/opml.xml

Nice. I think a search engine that only crawls RSS feeds is a great idea. My own selfishness wants such a project to not get too popular so the slop media doesn't go back to publishing feeds.

Re: I ditched the algorithm for RSS

#47
post #37

I'm a fan of RSS too. Some people I know use substack to write. I would ideally like to use kill-the-newsletter for that but I had trouble with delivery with substack. Fortunately, these days LLMs are quite quick so I was able to whip up a little tool that does this for myself: https://github.com/roshan/superheap It's incomplete but sufficient. LLMs drop the cost of software to near zero. I barely had to learn anythi…

> I would ideally like to use kill-the-newsletter for that but I had trouble with delivery with substack. Substack does indeed seem to have kill-the-newsletter banned, but (at least for free posts) it actually provides an RSS feed out of the box, so you should be able to just chuck the address of the blog’s home page into your RSS reader and have it figure things out for you. I haven’t seen this capability advertised…

Haha that's funny. It was already built-in! Well that saves me some trouble :)

Thank you. I only have one subscription. I wonder if there's a way to get the auth in there.

Re: I ditched the algorithm for RSS

#48
If I remember correctly "the algorithm" as a concept of feed curation has been introduced by facebook ( or youtube?), long after RSS was used by blogs and podcasts. Heck, even Twitter used to have an RSS feed they killed a looong time ago [1]

I also remember that in the beginning I was chuckling to myself "who on earth would want to have their feed curated by a black box whose target function cannot be checked? If I wanted that, I could just keep reading a single newspaper." - turns out I was very wrong and lots of people seem to prefer just getting washed in a steady stream of somewhat internally consistent worldview.

Would be really nice to see RSS make a comeback

[1] https://sociable.co/social-media/twitter-rss-feed-creator/

Re: I ditched the algorithm for RSS

#49
post #24

RSS is a fantastic way of getting new articles, videos, updates etc from various sources that post 1-2 times per day at max. Getting news from News websites is hell, I had to do a LOT of filtering on Freshrss to make the news category less overwhelming. And if you wanna get to "inbox zero" you’ll spend a lot of time scrolling.

Completely disagree. I mainline RSS feeds from news publications. The ability to glance at 300 headlines that'll take a couple minutes and being able to selectively open whenever one looks interesting. That's the power of RSS when you've a properly config'd setup (much love to Feedly, RIP Google Reader).

Re: I ditched the algorithm for RSS

#50

Newsfeeds are really nice, I utilize them now 20 Years or so (RIP old Bloglines). But it's a bit sad that there is no really good newsreader for it. I also used to use Usenet in the 90s and early 2000, so my view on this is a bit different, maybe. But all the feedreaders I know are either very limited in abilities, or very cumbersome to use for more advanced features. It's really strange how there seem many technophi…

Reeder if you're on MacOS/iOS. Most beautiful RSS client on the market. Feedly for a web client (paid sub required though)
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