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Re: How to delete your Facebook account

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You're right, it's a shallow take in response to a straw man of my position. Clearly content moderation is a HARD problem and the decision-makers at Facebook know this better than almost anyone. They made a decision that presumably was in their best interest, of which I happen to support.

> They made a decision that presumably was in their best interest They're making a decision based on political pressure.

How do you know? Occam's razor suggest that the fact checkers did indeed veer too far left of the American public.

Re: How to delete your Facebook account

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Part of the pushback is because they are still dictating what you can say except for some very particular exceptions which give away their true intentions. You're still not allowed to call someone mentally ill as an insult, unless you're doing it homophobically or transphobically, in which case it's now explicitly allowed. https://bsky.app/profile/esqueer.net/post/3lf72fz3fas22 If they'd removed that rule altogether…

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"freedom of speech, but only if it's statistically common" is a very strange take.

Re: How to delete your Facebook account

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Funny, I just signed up for a Facebook account this week after the news,having deleted mine in 2017. In my opinion, they are taking a step in the right direction. Clearly others disagree, which is their right. What isn't someone's right is to dictate truth, which is what Facebook will ostensibly do less of. Bravo

Part of the pushback is because they are still dictating what you can say except for some very particular exceptions which give away their true intentions. You're still not allowed to call someone mentally ill as an insult, unless you're doing it homophobically or transphobically, in which case it's now explicitly allowed. https://bsky.app/profile/esqueer.net/post/3lf72fz3fas22 If they'd removed that rule altogether…

I’m still shaken by this, two days later.

It’s not a mistake or some kind of ambiguous rule that could be misread. Following is the direct quote from Meta’s new guidelines. You can’t insult people based on:

Mental characteristics, including but not limited to allegations of stupidity, intellectual capacity, and mental illness, and unsupported comparisons between PC groups on the basis of inherent intellectual capacity. We do allow allegations of mental illness or abnormality when based on gender or sexual orientation, given political and religious discourse about transgenderism and homosexuality and common non-serious usage of words like “weird.”

They’re carving out specific minorities to exclude them from protections afforded to everybody else.

It’s exactly like saying: “You can’t doxx anyone on our platform, except Jews because that’s political and religious discourse about where heathens live.”

So here we are in 2025, and this barely gets a mention in the press because they’re so overwhelmed by the president-elect pretending to invade Denmark and whatever.

I’m a middle-aged bisexual man. My childhood and early teenage years coincided with the darkest times of the HIV epidemic. At 13 I was deadly afraid of AIDS, and I’m still trying to overcome the internalized homophobia from those times. For years I just tried to blend in, dated women, eventually got married, had children. I thought society had made real progress, but now it’s starting to dawn on me that it’s a mirage like Roe vs Wade or 1920s Berlin, and it can be stripped away at any time. And I feel like a miserable coward for all these years “just minding my own business” and never stepping up to support the community in any way, letting somebody else do the work. That needs to change. I’ll rather be mentally ill than hide in the shadows.

Re: How to delete your Facebook account

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I find it very easy to stay off their feed of algorithmic garbage, but unfortunately despite being (imo) less usable than Craigslist, Facebook Marketplace is what everyone around me uses.

This is the only thing keeping me from deleting my Facebook account. I recently moved and wanted to sell some things. Listed about 8 things on Craigslist and got some shady replies.

I listed the same 8 things on Facebook Marketplace and sold everything within days...

Re: How to delete your Facebook account

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post #43
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Part of the pushback is because they are still dictating what you can say except for some very particular exceptions which give away their true intentions. You're still not allowed to call someone mentally ill as an insult, unless you're doing it homophobically or transphobically, in which case it's now explicitly allowed. https://bsky.app/profile/esqueer.net/post/3lf72fz3fas22 If they'd removed that rule altogether…

I’m still shaken by this, two days later. It’s not a mistake or some kind of ambiguous rule that could be misread. Following is the direct quote from Meta’s new guidelines. You can’t insult people based on: Mental characteristics, including but not limited to allegations of stupidity, intellectual capacity, and mental illness, and unsupported comparisons between PC groups on the basis of inherent intellectual capacit…

The resurgence in homophobia (amongst other things) is very concerning. Hell, you have people in this very thread that are making homophobic comments openly, attached to their real name and business portfolio. It seems they've stopped even pretending to not be hateful. I can only hope this is a temporary phenomenon.

Re: How to delete your Facebook account

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Funny, I just signed up for a Facebook account this week after the news,having deleted mine in 2017. In my opinion, they are taking a step in the right direction. Clearly others disagree, which is their right. What isn't someone's right is to dictate truth, which is what Facebook will ostensibly do less of. Bravo

Part of the pushback is because they are still dictating what you can say except for some very particular exceptions which give away their true intentions. You're still not allowed to call someone mentally ill as an insult, unless you're doing it homophobically or transphobically, in which case it's now explicitly allowed. https://bsky.app/profile/esqueer.net/post/3lf72fz3fas22 If they'd removed that rule altogether…

Lets give them time to cook. It's likely the team refactoring these rules are mostly the same team that was leading the previous censorship. It's going to take some time to open back up.

Re: How to delete your Facebook account

#48
Before Facebook introduced the option to unsend or delete sent messages, you could only remove them from your view.

Does anyone know if there is an option to restore them, so you can then remove them from the people you've sent them to?

Before I delete my account, I'd like to make sure I delete as many messages I sent to people also.

Re: How to delete your Facebook account

#49

While I'm all on board with deleting Facebook accounts - and deleting Facebook itself - the timing of this push is odd. Now that Facebook claims to open up the platform for a wider view than just the desired narrative is the time to get rid of your account? Please explain to me how it was better to be held on a short leash than to be allowed to run out that leash a little bit. I never had a Facebook account and as su…

Excluding hate, bigotry and wilful ignorance isn't being "held on a short leash", it's just excluding hateful people from spreading hate.

Re: How to delete your Facebook account

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post #41
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They made a decision that presumably was in their best interest They're making a decision based on political pressure.

How do you know? Occam's razor suggest that the fact checkers did indeed veer too far left of the American public.

From here, Occam’s razor suggest that big companies want to be cozy with the new president, so they can continue getting what they want.

Money doesn’t care about wings.

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