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Hyperview – Native mobile apps, as easy as creating a website

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Re: Hyperview – Native mobile apps, as easy as creating a website

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Post by mathverse »

paradite wrote: post #36
klausa wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, just to clarify — I meant examples of services that "feel" nice to interact with in the app; not examples of what they can be used for.

I mean those 1st party integrations directly listed in WeChat services page are probably good examples of services that "feel" nice to interact, because they are used by millions of people everyday and they are need to optimized and polished to be able to serve millions of users. Here's a screenshot of the list, if you want to Google and check out some of them: https://imgur.com/a/KKEdliE

Minions of people use SAP daily that does not mean it's a nice thing to interact with.

Re: Hyperview – Native mobile apps, as easy as creating a website

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Post by paradite »

mathverse wrote: post #41
paradite wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean those 1st party integrations directly listed in WeChat services page are probably good examples of services that "feel" nice to interact, because they are used by millions of people everyday and they are need to optimized and polished to be able to serve millions of users. Here's a screenshot of the list, if you want to Google and check out some of them: https://imgur.com/a/KKEdliE

Minions of people use SAP daily that does not mean it's a nice thing to interact with.

I agree that numbers alone might not mean much, but I do think B2C apps with millions of users have a higher bar in terms of design and polish compared to B2B/ERP apps.

Also, fixed typo!

Re: Hyperview – Native mobile apps, as easy as creating a website

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Post by mathgeek »

revskill wrote: post #19
jsiepkes wrote: post #18

"Serve your app as XML" As someone who started his professional career in 2005: All the old is new again.

JSON is same as XML.

As someone who works with JSON every day and almost never deals with XML directly, it’s important to realize saying they are the same is like saying a pocket knife and a Swiss army knife are the same because they both have an extremely useful tool (and why would anyone ever use the thing with all that extra stuff I never use?). Not a perfect analogy but the one I think of for simplicity.

Re: Hyperview – Native mobile apps, as easy as creating a website

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Post by InsideOutSanta »

paradite wrote: post #36
klausa wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, just to clarify — I meant examples of services that "feel" nice to interact with in the app; not examples of what they can be used for.

I mean those 1st party integrations directly listed in WeChat services page are probably good examples of services that "feel" nice to interact, because they are used by millions of people everyday and they are need to optimized and polished to be able to serve millions of users. Here's a screenshot of the list, if you want to Google and check out some of them: https://imgur.com/a/KKEdliE

There's a pretty big difference in what UX "feels nice" to East Asian audiences vs Western audiences. This video provides some insight into why this might be: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSMFnJnY7EA

Re: Hyperview – Native mobile apps, as easy as creating a website

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Post by owebmaster »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #40
ipnon wrote: post #11

Not even a day after the post about HTMX not living up to its promise! There are only two certainties in life, death and frontend churn.

> frontend churn. Frontend churn hasn't been as much of a thing for years now, see e.g. https://2022.stateofjs.com/en-US/libraries/front-end-framewo... . If you stuck with Angular or React 10 years ago, you're still good today. jQuery is even older but still on 75% of websites ( https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/javascript_library ), and Bootstrap is on nearly a quarter. Frontend churn is only a thing if you…

React churned itself.

Re: Hyperview – Native mobile apps, as easy as creating a website

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Post by j45 »

netghost wrote: post #20
sibeliuss wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Server components + RN + Expo.... Could it get any more pointlessly complicated?

This is a ReactNative app that consumes XML and maps it to ReactNative components, so you're still using those pointlessly complicated technologies, but through a proxy application that abstracts some of the complexity away ( https://github.com/instawork/hyperview?tab=readme-ov-file#hy... ). When you hit the boundaries of what Hyperview can do, you're going to need to dig into some of the details, but mayhaps you don…

Less time spent building a stack temple to venerate oneself.

Re: Hyperview – Native mobile apps, as easy as creating a website

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Post by paradite »

lolpanda wrote: post #16
paradite wrote: post #13

Ah finally the Western tech ecosystem has caught up with WeChat/Alipay mini programs. https://developers.weixin.qq.com/miniprogram/en/dev/framewor... China had this DSL for building mobile apps for years. Those these apps are initially embedded inside WeChat/Alipay, there are now frameworks that allow it to run outside, like uniapp. https://en.uniapp.dcloud.io/

Those mini apps are built on the same web stack. I believe the main advantages of creating mini apps are that the platform provides identity (allowing you to know who the users are upon permission approval) and payment APIs.

They use a mixture of web rendering stack and native rendering stack. See my other comment.

There are also more architectural diagrams thst illustrate the layers in the links I posted in my original comment.

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