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Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs

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Post by paxys »

codespin wrote: post #20
jsheard wrote: post #4

32GB of GDDR7 at 1.8TB/sec for $2000, best of luck to the gamers trying to buy one of those while AI people are buying them by the truckload. Presumably the pro hardware based on the same silicon will have 64GB, they usually double whatever the gaming cards have.

At what point do we stop calling them graphics cards?

Nvidia literally markets H100 as a "GPU" (https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/data-center/h100/) even though it wasn't built for graphics and I doubt there's a single person or company using one to render any kind of graphics. GPU is just a recognizable term for the product category, and will keep being used.

Re: Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs

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Post by DimmieMan »

stego-tech wrote: post #19
malnourish wrote: post #6

I will be astonished if I'll be able to get a 5090 due to availability. The 5080's comparative lack of memory is a buzzkill -- 16 GB seems like it's going to be a limiting factor for 4k gaming. Does anyone know what these might cost in the US after the rumored tariffs?

Honestly, with how fast memory is being consumed nowadays and the increased focus on frame generation/interpolation vs “full frames”, I’ll keep my 3090 a little longer instead of upgrading to a 5080 or 5090. It’s not the fastest, but it’s a solid card even in 2025 for 1440p RT gaming on a VRR display, and the memory lets me tinker with LLMs without breaking a sweat. If DLSS4 and “MOAR POWAH” are the only things on of…

I use my 3090 on a 4K TV and still don't see a need, although a lot of that is being bored with most big budget games so I don't have many carrots to push me to upgrade.

Turn down a few showcase features and games still look great and run well with none or light DLSS. UE5 Lumen/ray tracing are the only things I feel limited on and until consoles can run them they'll be optional.

It seems all the gains are brute forcing these features with upscaling & frame generation which I'm not a fan of anyway.

Maybe a 7090 at this rate for me.

Re: Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs

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Post by benreesman »

stackghost wrote: post #37
Whatarethese wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Compute cards, AI Cards, or Business Cards. I like business cards, I'm going to stick with that one. Dibs.

Let's see Paul Allen's GPU.

Oh my god.

It even has a low mantissa FMA.

Re: Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs

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Post by jmyeet »

The interesting part to me was that Nvidia claim the new 5070 will have 4090 level performance for a much lower price ($549). Less memory however.

If that holds up in the benchmarks, this is a nice jump for a generation. I agree with others that more memory would've been nice, but it's clear Nvidia are trying to segment their SKUs into AI and non-AI models and using RAM to do it.

That might not be such a bad outcome if it means gamers can actually buy GPUs without them being instantly bought by robots like the peak crypto mining era.

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Post by kaibee »

smallmancontrov wrote: post #25
kcb wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup, the days of the value high end card are dead it seems like. I thought we would see a cut down 4090 at some point last generation but it never happened. Surely there's a market gap somewhere between 5090 and 5080.

Yes, but Nvidia thinks enough of them get pushed up to the 5090 to make the gap worthwhile. Only way to fix this is for AMD to decide it likes money. I'm not holding my breath.

Don't necessarily count Intel out.

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Post by dagmx »

yakaccount4 wrote: post #36
PaulKeeble wrote: post #11

Looks like most of the improvement is only going to come when DLSS4 is in use and its generating most of the frame for Ray Tracing and then also generating 3 predicted frames. When you use all that AI hardware then its maybe 2x, but I do wonder how much fundamental rasterisation + shaders performance gain there is in this generation in practice on the majority of actual games.

3 Generated frames sounds like a lot of lag, probably a sickening amount for many games. The magic of "blackwell flip metering" isn't quite described yet.

It’s 3 extrapolated frames not interpolated. So would be reduced lag at the expense of greater pop-in.

There’s also the new reflex 2 which uses reprojection based on mouse motion to generate frames that should also help, but likely has the same drawback.

Re: Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs

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Post by dagmx »

jmyeet wrote: post #46

The interesting part to me was that Nvidia claim the new 5070 will have 4090 level performance for a much lower price ($549). Less memory however. If that holds up in the benchmarks, this is a nice jump for a generation. I agree with others that more memory would've been nice, but it's clear Nvidia are trying to segment their SKUs into AI and non-AI models and using RAM to do it. That might not be such a bad outcome…

That claim is with a heavy asterisk of using DLSS4. Without DLSS4, it’s looking to be a 1.2-1.3x jump over the 4070.
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