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Re: Duolicious – Open-source dating app

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Post by johnnyanmac »

asdaqopqkq wrote: post #29

People looking for "an ethical dating app" are usually incel or incel adjacent. Dating is a zero sum game. Most men don't understand women. I'm saying this as a top 10% guy (IRL and on apps). It's best to acknowledge this and take this into account.

is it really "inceldom" to not want an app to literally rig my matches to not be the best matches until I put X time into it?

Look into some of the dark patterns used today compared to 2010 before making an assumption on people wanting an "ethical dating app". Especially in a community skewed on tech.

Re: Duolicious – Open-source dating app

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Post by itake »

cyberax wrote: post #37
PaulHoule wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can they charge women $1 to join and charge men $20 or something?

That actually is illegal! Our local California restaurant has been (successfully) sued for having "ladies nights out" where they provided discount drinks for ladies: https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/31/business/ladies-night-lawsuit...

you're probably right, but I think this is a bit different. You're effectively selling a gender "badge" on your profile. Either (real) gender can purchase that badge, but if you want to be marked as "male", it costs $20. and if you want to be marked as "female", its $1.

People will want to be honest about their gender identity, because being marked as the wrong gender would get messages from the wrong gender.

Re: Duolicious – Open-source dating app

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Post by lmm »

amyames wrote: post #25
mrayycombi wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Admit it. You just don't want people to know you're into Nigerian basket weaving.

Duolicious openly mocks its own users on Twitter. Calling them “chuds” and such. I guess if the shoe fits, wear it. But what a childish company to advertise on 4chan and market itself as being for that audience, to then sit there using condescending and derogatory slurs about them. Nice of them to open source everything so you can go make your own Duolicious with blackjack and hookers I guess.

> But what a childish company to advertise on 4chan and market itself as being for that audience, to then sit there using condescending and derogatory slurs about them.

Lol. It's just bants, no-one in that community minds. On the contrary, a company that tried to appeal to the 4chan audience without insulting them would be an obvious astroturfer/poser.

Re: Duolicious – Open-source dating app

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Post by lmm »

scythe wrote: post #40
PaulHoule wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can they charge women $1 to join and charge men $20 or something?

I think that this is a poor strategy in general if you actually want to "solve" online dating. From the women's perspective, men who are willing to spend money for a dating app are probably not more desirable than average, unless you raise the price so high (probably around $1k) it becomes a meaningful proxy for wealth, and even then that's a narrow market that is already saturated. The buzz about dating apps on male…

> a textbook microeconomic analysis insists that the experience must be worse for women, because otherwise they would use the app!

"Worse" in the sense of providing less value to them, sure, but maybe women just don't want as much sex. And it's far from clear that having more men on the app increases its value to women (if anything it might be the opposite).

Re: Duolicious – Open-source dating app

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Post by Beijinger »

"Duolicious has a question bank containing over 2000 thoughtful and unique questions designed to help us gain authentic insight into your personality"

And then do a clustering in n-dimensional space. Forget it, won't work. I am not looking to date a clone of myself.

But this clustering approach might work well with resumes for hiring. People hire people with similar resumes.

Re: Duolicious – Open-source dating app

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Post by derbOac »

progmetaldev wrote: post #13
internetter wrote: post #3

I like the open source aspect, I've been looking for an ethical dating app for a long time, and based on the README it looks awesome! But then I clicked onto the site, and things did a 180, based on the edgy marketing copy on the landing page I don't think this is the site I'm looking for, as 'normie' as that might make me. > There’s plenty of dating apps out there: Tinder, Bumble, OkCupid, Boo, Hinge. We think they’…

Unfortunately, I don't think we're going to ever be getting an ethical dating app. It may be ethical as far as not charging users to connect, or not trying to keep users constantly staying single so they are always using and checking the app. Without that "addiction" potential, I think even a completely open dating app would fail miserably. If people were able to connect and move on quickly, there would be little rea…

I'm not sure what would constitute ethical versus not ethical exactly, but increasingly I've wondered if some governments will start supporting dating apps, if birthrates decline enough. Is that better than a private corporation app? Maybe or maybe not but it seems like it might change the "ethical issue landscape".

Or maybe dating apps per se will fade away and dating functionality will just get folded into more general purpose apps and sites.

Re: Duolicious – Open-source dating app

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Post by Beijinger »

internetter wrote: post #3

I like the open source aspect, I've been looking for an ethical dating app for a long time, and based on the README it looks awesome! But then I clicked onto the site, and things did a 180, based on the edgy marketing copy on the landing page I don't think this is the site I'm looking for, as 'normie' as that might make me. > There’s plenty of dating apps out there: Tinder, Bumble, OkCupid, Boo, Hinge. We think they’…

https://alovoa.com/ is open source.

We thought for a while to use it to start our own dating up. But it is so hard to get off the ground...

Re: Duolicious – Open-source dating app

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Post by internetter »

derbOac wrote: post #46
progmetaldev wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, I don't think we're going to ever be getting an ethical dating app. It may be ethical as far as not charging users to connect, or not trying to keep users constantly staying single so they are always using and checking the app. Without that "addiction" potential, I think even a completely open dating app would fail miserably. If people were able to connect and move on quickly, there would be little rea…

I'm not sure what would constitute ethical versus not ethical exactly, but increasingly I've wondered if some governments will start supporting dating apps, if birthrates decline enough. Is that better than a private corporation app? Maybe or maybe not but it seems like it might change the "ethical issue landscape". Or maybe dating apps per se will fade away and dating functionality will just get folded into more gen…

I define ethical as an app that is designed to do its job as effectively as possible. That is to say, match the most compatible individuals without stupid retention games. The problem is, this isn’t a good business model. I would fully support a state funded dating app (so long as the dating app wasn’t actually controlled by the state because then it would just be weird)

Re: Duolicious – Open-source dating app

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Post by internetter »

Beijinger wrote: post #47
internetter wrote: post #3

I like the open source aspect, I've been looking for an ethical dating app for a long time, and based on the README it looks awesome! But then I clicked onto the site, and things did a 180, based on the edgy marketing copy on the landing page I don't think this is the site I'm looking for, as 'normie' as that might make me. > There’s plenty of dating apps out there: Tinder, Bumble, OkCupid, Boo, Hinge. We think they’…

https://alovoa.com/ is open source. We thought for a while to use it to start our own dating up. But it is so hard to get off the ground...

Oooh I like this one much more, I wonder how active it is..

Re: Duolicious – Open-source dating app

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Post by subjectsigma »

asdaqopqkq wrote: post #29

People looking for "an ethical dating app" are usually incel or incel adjacent. Dating is a zero sum game. Most men don't understand women. I'm saying this as a top 10% guy (IRL and on apps). It's best to acknowledge this and take this into account.

Ethical here means "please don't sell my data or abuse my profile", not "everyone on the app is happy and farting rainbows." A person with third-grade reading comprehension could understand this from the linked article, so I guess you really must have spec'd entirely into charisma
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