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Akamai to shut down its CDN operations in China

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Re: Akamai to shut down its CDN operations in China

#41

China never has and never will offer a level playing field for non-Chinese companies. The US is finally starting to act in kind, and should continue to do so.

I thought we don't want to be like China? You aren't going to spread your form of "democracy" across the world by doing what the "oppressive" regimes are doing.

But you also don’t want to tolerant the intolerant, it’s thin line.

Re: Akamai to shut down its CDN operations in China

#43

China never has and never will offer a level playing field for non-Chinese companies. The US is finally starting to act in kind, and should continue to do so.

I thought we don't want to be like China? You aren't going to spread your form of "democracy" across the world by doing what the "oppressive" regimes are doing.

Tit for tat taxation or restrictions on businesses are not related at all to democracy.

Re: Akamai to shut down its CDN operations in China

#44

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Fair trade. It's amazing it took us until Trump to make this a major agenda item.

And yet he’s not blocking TikTok. It’s quite astonishing given: A) they’re a Chinese owned company B) China asymmetrically has never allowed US social media (amongst practically all major internet properties) C) We cap ownership of foreign owners of US media. TikTok IS TV for the young generation. But apparently he thinks it helped him win (would love to know if that was actually true, which is probably impossible to…

D) It was him who started the whole discussion of banning TikTok in the first place

Re: Akamai to shut down its CDN operations in China

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We've had CIFUS for decades. The only change is now we say no to Japan teaching us to make better steel.

> We've had CIFUS for decades. The only change is now we say no to Japan teaching us to make better steel. I'm curious what you mean by that. Most of what I know about steel is in relation to knives (and peripherally, swords, axes, and other tools). At least in that (admittedly small) niche, Japanese steel is good, but certainly not superior to US steel (although with the financial trouble that Crucible is having, pe…

Likely referring to the acquisition attempt by nippon steel

Re: Akamai to shut down its CDN operations in China

#46

China never has and never will offer a level playing field for non-Chinese companies. The US is finally starting to act in kind, and should continue to do so.

I thought we don't want to be like China? You aren't going to spread your form of "democracy" across the world by doing what the "oppressive" regimes are doing.

We don’t. But if we keep throwing companies into the grinder like this where all their IP is stolen and they are just replicated in China on an unfair playing field, we end up losing anyways regardless of intent.

Re: Akamai to shut down its CDN operations in China

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought we don't want to be like China? You aren't going to spread your form of "democracy" across the world by doing what the "oppressive" regimes are doing.

Tit for tat taxation or restrictions on businesses are not related at all to democracy.

> restrictions on businesses are not related at all to democracy.

I guess we've dropped the whole "Global fair trade leads to a more free, peaceful and democratic world" argument that used to be so popular?

Re: Akamai to shut down its CDN operations in China

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought we don't want to be like China? You aren't going to spread your form of "democracy" across the world by doing what the "oppressive" regimes are doing.

But you also don’t want to tolerant the intolerant, it’s thin line.

Debatable.

> whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also (Jesus)

> I do not like the word tolerance, but could not think of a better one. Tolerance implies a gratuitous assumption of the inferiority of other faiths to one (Gandhi)

Re: Akamai to shut down its CDN operations in China

#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fair trade. It's amazing it took us until Trump to make this a major agenda item.

And yet he’s not blocking TikTok. It’s quite astonishing given: A) they’re a Chinese owned company B) China asymmetrically has never allowed US social media (amongst practically all major internet properties) C) We cap ownership of foreign owners of US media. TikTok IS TV for the young generation. But apparently he thinks it helped him win (would love to know if that was actually true, which is probably impossible to…

I thought he asked the court to pause the ban until he was in office. In the interest of trying to be neutral, perhaps he either:

* Thinks he can help negotiate some sort of deal that keeps TikTok here fairly, or

* Sees an opportunity to do a grift/accept some bribes from ByteDance/get some control over an effective propaganda engine.

Re: Akamai to shut down its CDN operations in China

#50

China never has and never will offer a level playing field for non-Chinese companies. The US is finally starting to act in kind, and should continue to do so.

I thought we don't want to be like China? You aren't going to spread your form of "democracy" across the world by doing what the "oppressive" regimes are doing.

This has nothing to do with democracy, it's about trying to keep a level playing field. The US has been trying to open trade with China since the 70s, and until China stops doing this the US has to adjust trade policy to keep things fair. Free and open trade is a two way street, otherwise it's just charity to the bad faith actor.
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