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Re: The Adrian Dittmann Story

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Post by fuzzylightbulb »

daseiner1 wrote: post #37
rad_gruchalski wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not like Musk builds rockets. He pays for it but that’s it. He also spent $44bn on an American president. He’s clearly intelligent but is he a genius?

He does far more than write checks and even if that was truly all he did the fact that he put his personal wealth into both Tesla and then SpaceX when there was no reasonable expectation for success is on its own highly commendable. Nobody built rockets the way SpaceX does, and SpaceX - full-stop - would not exist without his involvement. I find his personality and views largely repugnant, but denigrating his accompl…

I care about a well functioning democracy that serves the populace infinitely more than I care about tesla or spacex. His accomplishments mean nothing relative to his active destruction of a just and functional society for regular people. The ends do not justify his means.

And that's to say nothing of how completely insufferable musk and his apologists are.

Re: The Adrian Dittmann Story

#42

Post by llamaimperative »

krismatja wrote: post #40
llamaimperative wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People have asked for face interviews. I suspect Adrian is enjoying the attention all the confusion generates. And it’s not “just” because he sounds like Elon. There have been multiple occasions where Adrian has said “I” referring to Elon. Obviously people slip up in speech, but also obviously some people have pseudonyms. Adrian has lots of in-depth knowledge of Tesla/SpaceX, shows up in the same circles as Elon cons…

The same of what you said to me can be also applied to the "roon (@tszzl)" account on X, it has been widely speculated that that account is Sam Altman, works at OpenAI, knows about 'AGI', and also speaks in riddles. Now that we know 'the truth' that Adrian Dittman is not Elon (it was an elaborate inside joke by the way) Should we both together make a large extensive public exposé on the roon (@tszzl) X account to fin…

Sure! Let’s play it out:

1) Does Roon’s speaking voice sound almost identical to Altman’s?

2) Did Altman’s own child say Roon is his alt account?

3) Does Roon sometimes say “I” in place of “he” when speaking about Altman?

4) Does Roon call the base of Altman’s political party of choice (of which he’s a central figure) names like “crackheads?”

If the answer is “yes” to all of these, then I wouldn’t find it weird at all for someone to spend time digging into it.

Re: The Adrian Dittmann Story

#43

Post by daseiner1 »

fuzzylightbulb wrote: post #41
daseiner1 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He does far more than write checks and even if that was truly all he did the fact that he put his personal wealth into both Tesla and then SpaceX when there was no reasonable expectation for success is on its own highly commendable. Nobody built rockets the way SpaceX does, and SpaceX - full-stop - would not exist without his involvement. I find his personality and views largely repugnant, but denigrating his accompl…

I care about a well functioning democracy that serves the populace infinitely more than I care about tesla or spacex. His accomplishments mean nothing relative to his active destruction of a just and functional society for regular people. The ends do not justify his means. And that's to say nothing of how completely insufferable musk and his apologists are.

In democracy, the people get what they deserve.

But I’m largely anti-democracy and anti-populace, so we’re gonna be orthogonal here.

Re: The Adrian Dittmann Story

#44

Post by belter »

leobg wrote: post #22
tines wrote: post #17

Well, so much for that: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1875758660154163254

What makes you think he isn’t just messing with people here? He has said before that he’s an alien or that he’ll guard Taylor Swift’s cats with his life. Why should this one be different?

"You're an amazing father, Elon.

Your kids are very lucky to have you."

https://www.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter/comments/1hu7ixk...

Re: The Adrian Dittmann Story

#45

Post by krismatja »

llamaimperative wrote: post #42
krismatja wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same of what you said to me can be also applied to the "roon (@tszzl)" account on X, it has been widely speculated that that account is Sam Altman, works at OpenAI, knows about 'AGI', and also speaks in riddles. Now that we know 'the truth' that Adrian Dittman is not Elon (it was an elaborate inside joke by the way) Should we both together make a large extensive public exposé on the roon (@tszzl) X account to fin…

Sure! Let’s play it out: 1) Does Roon’s speaking voice sound almost identical to Altman’s? 2) Did Altman’s own child say Roon is his alt account? 3) Does Roon sometimes say “I” in place of “he” when speaking about Altman? 4) Does Roon call the base of Altman’s political party of choice (of which he’s a central figure) names like “crackheads?” If the answer is “yes” to all of these, then I wouldn’t find it weird at al…

Not extensive enough.

I expect a very curious individual such as yourself to make the same or if not higher level of analysis as the one on Adrian Dittmann for roon.

All of this information without their consent, including their close family and friends, children and other information about where they live, their private information floating on the internet and who they work and their work history (all blurred out of course).

Then we can definitely conclude that roon is or is not Altman, we both know that roon and Altman work at OpenAI so you can start your investigation there.

Re: The Adrian Dittmann Story

#46

Post by rad_gruchalski »

daseiner1 wrote: post #37
rad_gruchalski wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not like Musk builds rockets. He pays for it but that’s it. He also spent $44bn on an American president. He’s clearly intelligent but is he a genius?

He does far more than write checks and even if that was truly all he did the fact that he put his personal wealth into both Tesla and then SpaceX when there was no reasonable expectation for success is on its own highly commendable. Nobody built rockets the way SpaceX does, and SpaceX - full-stop - would not exist without his involvement. I find his personality and views largely repugnant, but denigrating his accompl…

> Obnoxious tweets and incendiary messaging does not mean we ought not appreciate his impact.

Nobody would pay attention if his words didn’t make any impact. But they do and I think even he doesn’t realise what the consequences of his actions may be. It’s one thing him controlling the president of the US, it’s another thing him trying to have impact half a world away.

Does he really think that nazis from ex-DDR will be buying teslas when AfD comes to power?

What’s his angle? Ego because the son became a daughter and he blames it on woke culture? The man is risking destabilising the world for who knows what reasons. Most Germans loved Hitler, remember that.

I absolutely don’t care about SpaceX, neither Tesla. Shrug, don’t care.

Re: The Adrian Dittmann Story

#47

Post by orbital-decay »

llamaimperative wrote: post #4
krismatja wrote: post #2

Even if this person is Elon or not, who cares really? I don't know about you, but this is extremely creepy and overly excessive to get information on a private individual without consent, just because he has a similar voice to Elon. Especially when this all of this was based of a joke it seems? This is directed at both this article and the Spectator. Should we do an in-depth and detailed documentation on the 'roon (@…

It’s in the public interest because Musk is one of the most powerful people on the planet and he’s exercising that power quite forcefully these days. People obviously are going to be interested to find every snippet of information they can about his beliefs and goals — especially the ones he’s unwilling to publicly sign his name to.

That doesn't justify casually doxxing another person who is not Musk and might or might not be the same Adrian Dittmann, though.

Re: The Adrian Dittmann Story

#48

Post by rad_gruchalski »

daseiner1 wrote: post #43
fuzzylightbulb wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I care about a well functioning democracy that serves the populace infinitely more than I care about tesla or spacex. His accomplishments mean nothing relative to his active destruction of a just and functional society for regular people. The ends do not justify his means. And that's to say nothing of how completely insufferable musk and his apologists are.

In democracy, the people get what they deserve. But I’m largely anti-democracy and anti-populace, so we’re gonna be orthogonal here.

Well, who knows what’s in it for the US. Trump already said that when he comes back to power he ain’t leaving (or that there will be no need to elect again, can’t remember exactly).

Re: The Adrian Dittmann Story

#49

Post by llamaimperative »

krismatja wrote: post #45
llamaimperative wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure! Let’s play it out: 1) Does Roon’s speaking voice sound almost identical to Altman’s? 2) Did Altman’s own child say Roon is his alt account? 3) Does Roon sometimes say “I” in place of “he” when speaking about Altman? 4) Does Roon call the base of Altman’s political party of choice (of which he’s a central figure) names like “crackheads?” If the answer is “yes” to all of these, then I wouldn’t find it weird at al…

Not extensive enough. I expect a very curious individual such as yourself to make the same or if not higher level of analysis as the one on Adrian Dittmann for roon. All of this information without their consent, including their close family and friends, children and other information about where they live, their private information floating on the internet and who they work and their work history (all blurred out of…

Uhhh I must not have been clear. I'm playing out whether the situations are similar enough for it to be justifiable for someone to dig into it. That was not an attempt to actually figure it out, just like I didn't actually attempt to figure out the Dittmann thing.

Re: The Adrian Dittmann Story

#50

Post by llamaimperative »

orbital-decay wrote: post #47
llamaimperative wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s in the public interest because Musk is one of the most powerful people on the planet and he’s exercising that power quite forcefully these days. People obviously are going to be interested to find every snippet of information they can about his beliefs and goals — especially the ones he’s unwilling to publicly sign his name to.

That doesn't justify casually doxxing another person who is not Musk and might or might not be the same Adrian Dittmann, though.

Yeah, definitely not a good consequence of the whole ordeal. I don't really agree with that outcome.
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