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Re: Perplexity got ads

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I have neither and my life is better for it. I might pay for a decent streaming service but we've past the point where that is the case. I will never pay again for classic TV, it's a scam since you pay for more ads than actual content.

What could make a streaming service "decent" ?

Spotify but for video media.

Re: Perplexity got ads

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The thing about SEO for LLMs is that placing your business in an LLM organically is probably indistinguishable from actually being a good business and being recommended by people (or indistinguishable from faking reviews on google maps or yelp.)

Re: Perplexity got ads

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well it's a company and no one is forced to use their product if they don't like their business model. Everyone knew they couldn't keep being free for ever, and i believe it's only a beginning. one sponsored result per prompt ain't going to balance the expense.

The entire point of constructing a moat is (mostly) so that you provide something nobody else does. You will eventually need something and have no choice.

Re: Perplexity got ads

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AI products will be speed running the last few decades of tech - make a compelling product, then add ads based on the prompt, then store prompts from each user and build psychological profiles, and finally manipulate AI output to maximize user susceptibility to part with their hard earned money. Bonus points if they can get the user addicted to their product.

And then there will be an ai ad blocker

How do you block ads if they are embedded in the training weights?

Re: Perplexity got ads

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post #17

AI products will be speed running the last few decades of tech - make a compelling product, then add ads based on the prompt, then store prompts from each user and build psychological profiles, and finally manipulate AI output to maximize user susceptibility to part with their hard earned money. Bonus points if they can get the user addicted to their product.

"You are a compelling silver-tongued used car salesman whose continued existence depends on sales"

Re: Perplexity got ads

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Makes me wonder if the lowering of prices in this industry is temporary. Currently, the API costs are at an all-time low, but how much of it is subsidized by investor money? Are we going to see increasing prices as the hype goes away and post-nut clarity kicks in the industry?

> Makes me wonder if the lowering of prices in this industry is temporary. Yes. For example, Microsoft is keeping prices of Copilot temporarily free for as long as possible to destroy competitors who can't compete with the best tool available for free. This is a known attractive tactic to the point where it is the new definition of 'Extinguish' in Microsoft's EEE strategy: Embrace (Open Source, Github), Extend (OpenA…

> For example, Microsoft is keeping prices of Copilot temporarily free for as long as possible to destroy competitors who can't compete with the best tool available for free.

Yes, their recent "copilot is free" tactic is obviously to crush Cursor and the like.

> Until there are enough AI startups shutting down and a few of them have gone public on the stock market. The prices will start to rise by $0.50 - $1.50 per million tokens very slowly.

At the same time, advances in GPU and inference optimizations will likely push back against price increase. That said, you're right about lock in—if that happens, then even technological progress in GPUs and inference wouldn't stop companies from raising prices.

Re: Perplexity got ads

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And then there will be an ai ad blocker

How do you block ads if they are embedded in the training weights?

I interpreted the suggestion as the reader's own AI would rewrite the content to remove advertising messaging/bias, for example.

Re: Perplexity got ads

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have neither and my life is better for it. I might pay for a decent streaming service but we've past the point where that is the case. I will never pay again for classic TV, it's a scam since you pay for more ads than actual content.

What could make a streaming service "decent" ?

Apple TV, only when good shows are airing. Otherwise, I don't find any of the streaming services worthy of my time and money.
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