What do you mean impassable challenge...? Why isn't it passable? Are you a robot?
Tell HN: Impassable Cloudflare challenges are ruining my browsing experience
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Re: Tell HN: Impassable Cloudflare challenges are ruining my browsing experience
#42Can't you have a normal firefox profile for such cases? Do you have any javascript filters? I bet the issue must be related to configs messing with the JS runtime.
The issue is scummy companies like cloudflare which are causing these issues. If your software is blocking legitimate users then your software is shit at its job. It's not the users fault.
Re: Tell HN: Impassable Cloudflare challenges are ruining my browsing experience
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
They are not targeting people like you. Bots are the target. If you look like a bot, how are they going to distinguish?
> If you look like a bot, how are they going to distinguish? Some non-existant system of attesting that I'm person X (possibly through an e-ID card) who has issued a client certificate Y (cert chain, using my e-ID cert to sign) to be used with my device Z (presumably with a device fingerprint or IP range attached to the cert). Of course, this would mean no privacy, but that's not that different from being signed in t…
Between what you described and having to run a vaguely standard browser config, I'll take the latter, thanks.
Re: Tell HN: Impassable Cloudflare challenges are ruining my browsing experience
#44You're collateral damage in the web's war against bots :( Unfortunately, I think the Cloudflare challenges are designed to filter out users similar to your profile... once you stray far enough from the norm, it just looks like a bot / suspicious traffic to them. Statistically there's not enough users like you (privacy-conscious Linux users on nonstandard browsers) for them to really care enough to do anything about i…
The sad part is that it's trivial to get around CF's bot protection if you're writing a bot (just use curl-impersonate and buy residential IPs), but it's pretty much impossible to bypass as a human if their magical black box doesn't like your browser and/or IP address.
> it's pretty much impossible to bypass as a human if their magical black box doesn't like your browser and/or IP address
There are residential-IP-backed VPN services that you can use just like commercial VPN services — but they're mostly built on the backs of botnets, so it's ethically questionable to use them.
Re: Tell HN: Impassable Cloudflare challenges are ruining my browsing experience
#45CrimeFlare is not interested in these problems for the users. If you have access to the hosting side, you can adjust the bot score for specific connections/clients. But consumers don't matter to CF so apart from jumping through their hoops, there's nothing better you can do.
Unless you accept the racket of course, start paying them and proxy your traffic through the CF workers https://github.com/pellaeon/cloudflare-worker-proxy and magically most barriers will disappear.
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#46What do you mean impassable challenge...? Why isn't it passable? Are you a robot?
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Re: Tell HN: Impassable Cloudflare challenges are ruining my browsing experience
#47>I use a heavily customized Firefox config on Linux. This is probably the cause, especially if you're doing stuff like spoofing user agent. It's not cloudflare "cracking down on privacy" or whatever either. Unmodified tor browser passes turnstile challenges just fine.
It's up to users to choose their user agent.
Re: Tell HN: Impassable Cloudflare challenges are ruining my browsing experience
#48What do you mean impassable challenge...? Why isn't it passable? Are you a robot?
The challenge is a small javascript program that checks the execution environment is consistent with a real browser. For instance, if your user agent says it's chrome, but it's missing features that'd normally be supported by chrome, it'll fail you. The OP mentioned "heavily customized Firefox config", so he might be doing stuff like this that makes his browser look suspicious.
Re: Tell HN: Impassable Cloudflare challenges are ruining my browsing experience
#49It seems that if you use Firefox with an adblocker then cloudflare spam is all you see. Though I have experienced this in plain Firefox too. Cloudflare are a scummy company trying to force you to use one browser and view all ads.
It can't be just that. I use Firefox on Linux with ublock origin, strict tracking protection, and clear cookies on exit, and I've never ever seen a cloudflare challenge. Not even on sites with that "verifying your browser" page enabled.
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