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uBlock Origin GPL code being stolen by team behind Honey browser extension

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Re: uBlock Origin GPL code being stolen by team behind Honey browser extension

#41
post #4

If something is "heavily promoted by influencers", it's garbage. Would it make a difference if this garbage was GPL licensed?

personally I think it's hilarious that "influencers" were taking a pittance to unknowingly cut off their affiliate income

and not just cut it off once, but cut it off forever

and as a bonus: cut it off for all other influencers too

Re: uBlock Origin GPL code being stolen by team behind Honey browser extension

#43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The bad pushes out the good until you’re only left with bad. A system that tolerates bad actors like this will in time only have bad actors. It’s tolerated because it makes a large amount of money for a small number of people.

This is exactly it. When things are horrible around us, there is a strong temptation to throw ones hands up in apathy and let the rot fester. "Eh, Honey is probably selling my data but I got $5 off my new mattress, so wtv". We need to resist that call to apathy, stop acquiescing, and start demanding better of others. That, incidentally, often starts at demanding better of ourselves.

I disagree that it’s down to the individuals. While individuals can throw themselves into the gears of the machine it is understandable why they do not.

I see things in terms of a sharecropping analogy, feudal lords (corrupted government) allow the scammers to harvest the crop (victims) for a share of the proceeds. We cannot fix people to the point they are un-scammable and there does not exist a democratic force strong enough to fix the government. Almost all ads I’ve ever seen are for obvious scams, especially on twitter. You’d think the richest guy in history (possibly?) could afford not to allow industrial exploitation of his users but apparently not.

You have gambling sites and binary auction scams that have a turnover that includes a significant percentage of suicides. I wish we had a democracy that could prevent this but we do not. While many of us here may be smart enough to avoid falling victim to these scams we have family members that we care about who are not so this still indirectly costs us wealth.

Re: uBlock Origin GPL code being stolen by team behind Honey browser extension

#44
post #9

Why can't people just run businesses decently without deception & scams? I'm sure they can be profitable. This deceptive behaviour actually makes the business loose customers in the long term.

The bad pushes out the good until you’re only left with bad. A system that tolerates bad actors like this will in time only have bad actors. It’s tolerated because it makes a large amount of money for a small number of people.

I mean laws are supposed to stop the bad actors but at this point the extreme cost of legal action and the street-crime fixation of police forces mean those laws don't constrain wealthy interests unless they harm other wealthy interests.

Protects and does not bind vs bind but does not protect. Same as always.

Re: uBlock Origin GPL code being stolen by team behind Honey browser extension

#45

If any software ever deserved being sued into non-existence it is the Honey browser extension, and any other scam software they turn out (Pie Adblock in this case). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc4yL3YTwWk

From what I've gathered, honey basically replaced affiliate codes with their own and then gave the user part of the commission back? Is there something they did that users should be unhappy about?

Re: uBlock Origin GPL code being stolen by team behind Honey browser extension

#47
post #9

Why can't people just run businesses decently without deception & scams? I'm sure they can be profitable. This deceptive behaviour actually makes the business loose customers in the long term.

Hayek: Why the worst get on top

https://fee.org/resources/the-road-to-serfdom-chapter-10-why...

Re: uBlock Origin GPL code being stolen by team behind Honey browser extension

#48
post #9

Why can't people just run businesses decently without deception & scams? I'm sure they can be profitable. This deceptive behaviour actually makes the business loose customers in the long term.

> I'm sure they can be profitable.

Some aren’t and never will be without the deception and those companies just shouldn’t exist.

Re: uBlock Origin GPL code being stolen by team behind Honey browser extension

#49

As if Honey isn't already under enough fire with half the youtube world releasing videos about their shady practices.

Title is misleading. The original team behind Honey has created a new company that is doing this and not Honey itself which is owned by Paypal.
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