Why's there so much hate for Tesla here on HN?
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#42Why's there so much hate for Tesla here on HN?
The hate is for Musk. Tesla hate is just collateral damage.
People tolerated Musk's narcissism when he was largely apolitical and his entrepreneurship seemed to benefiting the world at large. Since 2020, Musk's brain seems to have been pretty severely infected by the woke/anti-woke mind-virus, and it's far less clear that his impact on the world is an unmitigated good thing.
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#43It is only going to get worse for Tesla. Musk went all in extreme right-wing. Even though most "green" buyers are left leaning. I started disliking Musk after his pedo comments in regards to the cave rescuers. The smart/geeky/techy guy is a facade. I mainly would not consider Tesla because of Musk. The poor build quality just reinforces that stance.
I'm not really anti Elon, in fact I agree with a lot of what he says, but I just cannot get over that paedo comment. That said a lot about his character.
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#44Re: Tesla reports 1.1% sales drop for 2024, first annual decline in at least 9 years
#45In contrast, BYD sold over 500,000 vehicles in December alone. https://electrek.co/2025/01/02/byds-ev-sales-surged-2024-eno...
That includes hybrids though :S
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why is Musk be loud about his politics worse than other billionaires being quiet but equally active in the political scene? It's good to know where these people stand.
> Why is Musk be loud about his politics worse than other billionaires being quiet but equally active in the political scene? Musk's involvement is on the level of e.g. Rupert Murdoch or the Adelsons. It's well beyond even most billionaires' political activities.
I'm not denying that. I think it might open some people's eyes to the reality that we live in.
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After owning a Model Y for a year I have to say -- it's the best car I've ever had. Comfortable ride, the visibility with the cameras is great, amazing all-weather traction. It's freakin' fast. The voice-to-navigate works nearly 99% of the time which, given my experiences with Alexa and Siri, is quite impressive.
All the usual EV caveats apply though. Being able to charge at home is a must. Living in a cold weather state is probably not advised. Multi-state road trips are doable but not recommended; it's just too much of a hassle. Keep a gas car for that. And I still don't trust any driving assist more advanced than enhanced cruise control.
I have no emotional response to Musk so that doesn't color my opinion of the car.
Re: Tesla reports 1.1% sales drop for 2024, first annual decline in at least 9 years
#48In contrast, BYD sold over 500,000 vehicles in December alone. https://electrek.co/2025/01/02/byds-ev-sales-surged-2024-eno...
The Chinese automobile companies are unmatched in this. It’s just that the US has sufficient protectionism to protect its local market. But these guys are a wave like the origin of the Japanese automobile. It’s going to make life hard for American manufacturers just as the developing nations are getting rich enough for automobile purchases.
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#49Why's there so much hate for Tesla here on HN?
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What a weird take.
Elon Musk's reputational downfall is mostly self-inflicted. I say this as a (reluctant) defender of Musk's reputation, ardent even.
There's only so many rounds I am going to bat for the truth when the man continues to set his reputation on fire. Well deserved even? Yes.
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#50Why's there so much hate for Tesla here on HN?
Same reason there is so much love for Tesla here on HN. It's polarizing, and its CEO even more, to the point people lose the ability to have an opinion beside totally awesome or entirely terrible.
Myself I think the cars are bland inside for their aim of luxury, the driving assists is terrible for its aimed goal, but the overall car is okay. Except their most recent rust bucket which is clearly a meme car and I don't know why they went ahead with that.