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Re: Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

#41

Post by k1kingy »

My FB timeline is already a complete mess with most irrelevant garbage as it stands. Not exactly sure what adding additional 'noise' is going to achieve outside of boosting numbers (which I guess is what they want).

A current snapshot my feed:

  - Group post (from one I follow)  
  - Ad  
  - Post (from company I don't follow)  
  - Group post (from Group I don't follow)  
  - Group post (from one I follow)  
  - Ad  
  - Group post (from Group I don't follow)  
  - Group post (from Group I don't follow)  
  - Post (from person I don't follow)  
  - Group post (from Group I don't follow)  
  - Group post (from Group I don't follow)  
  - Group post (from Group I don't follow)  
  - Post (from person I don't follow)  
  - Group post (from Group I don't follow)  
  - Group post (from Group I don't follow)  
  - Group post (from one I follow)  
  - Group post (from Group I don't follow)  
  - Group post (from Group I don't follow)  
  - Group post (from one I follow)
I gave up writing the above, but it was about 9 more posts before I saw a post from a person I actually know.

Re: Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

#43

Post by nextworddev »

friend_Fernando wrote: post #10

I think we actually need more bots discussing politics online. Specifically, we need echo chambers to be replaced by cacophony chambers. The only way to salvage democracy is to bring it back offline. Online, it was undermined by troll farms pulling the strings in favor of certain shady factions. It's time for the good guys to get their hands dirty and break the spell. Trolls cannot be silenced, but they can be offset…

You are describing Reddit

Re: Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

#44

Post by alex1138 »

_Algernon_ wrote: post #37
alex1138 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, but replace "they" with "Zuckerberg" and "platforms" with "Facebook"

It applies to much more than facebook though. For example, Tiktok, Youtube, Reddit, Instagram. Not sure why you want to single out Facebook.

Because Zuckerberg has a generally weasely reputation and also I don't see the other platforms being nearly as scummy as Facebook has been

(Instagram as you probably know is also owned by Facebook and people are similarly tired of the constant spam)

Re: Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

#45

Post by 0xEF »

k1kingy wrote: post #41

My FB timeline is already a complete mess with most irrelevant garbage as it stands. Not exactly sure what adding additional 'noise' is going to achieve outside of boosting numbers (which I guess is what they want). A current snapshot my feed: - Group post (from one I follow) - Ad - Post (from company I don't follow) - Group post (from Group I don't follow) - Group post (from one I follow) - Ad - Group post (from Gro…

Why are you still using it?

I dropped FB about 12 years ago, have not looked back since. I ask people this question who still use FB and complain about terrible it is. They answer with some generic "to stay in touch with such and such" which is easier and less invasive to do with SMS or email.

So, why are you still using it?

Re: Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

#46

Post by jokethrowaway »

concordDance wrote: post #38
friend_Fernando wrote: post #10

I think we actually need more bots discussing politics online. Specifically, we need echo chambers to be replaced by cacophony chambers. The only way to salvage democracy is to bring it back offline. Online, it was undermined by troll farms pulling the strings in favor of certain shady factions. It's time for the good guys to get their hands dirty and break the spell. Trolls cannot be silenced, but they can be offset…

> Online, it was undermined by troll farms pulling the strings in favor of certain shady factions. No, online it was undermined by selection effects. Where those who care the most about something are most likely to engage or post, leading to endless streams of unrepresentative and extreme views.

It was shaped by censorship! Conservatives and libertarians have been banned for a decade.

Since the first Obama social media campaign the internet became very one sided - and people started believing that crap so much, everyone here had to sit through at least one DEI training.

I'm against any form of government and centralization of power (which nearly always happens thanks to regulations and laws); I'm not a fan of Musk and conservatives (I'll change my mind after I see with my eyes a significant reduction of the US government) but I'm glad to see a return to balance in online discourse.

We had another DEI training at work and I was impressed to read everyone left negative reviews about it. Quite the change in sentiment!

Re: Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

#47

Post by InsideOutSanta »

_Algernon_ wrote: post #39
alex1138 wrote: post #11

Hey here's a novel idea Have social media websites be reverse chronological posts by friends/pages you follow instead of what AI thinks you're interested in (and yet somehow not explicitly following, yet you get it in your feed anyway)

But how will that create value for shareholders?

The numbers are going up!

What numbers?

THE NUMBERS!

Re: Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

#48

Post by _Algernon_ »

alex1138 wrote: post #44
_Algernon_ wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It applies to much more than facebook though. For example, Tiktok, Youtube, Reddit, Instagram. Not sure why you want to single out Facebook.

Because Zuckerberg has a generally weasely reputation and also I don't see the other platforms being nearly as scummy as Facebook has been (Instagram as you probably know is also owned by Facebook and people are similarly tired of the constant spam)

Focusing on one particular company distracts from the fact that this is a result of systemic incentives. It is the incentives that need to change, not any particular company. Facebook / Instagram is crap, but so is Tiktok, Youtube, Reddit, etc.

The fundamental problem is the business model where money is parasitised from people's attention. You want change? Make these companies responsible for the negative externalities they impose on society, just like companies that pollute the commons are held responsible.

We don't need another Tiktok ban; we need industry wide regulation. Shortsighted focus on single companies is simply a distraction from this fact, which only benefits these companies and allows most of them to continue as before.

Re: Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

#49

Post by [deleted] »

0xEF wrote: post #45
k1kingy wrote: post #41

My FB timeline is already a complete mess with most irrelevant garbage as it stands. Not exactly sure what adding additional 'noise' is going to achieve outside of boosting numbers (which I guess is what they want). A current snapshot my feed: - Group post (from one I follow) - Ad - Post (from company I don't follow) - Group post (from Group I don't follow) - Group post (from one I follow) - Ad - Group post (from Gro…

Why are you still using it? I dropped FB about 12 years ago, have not looked back since. I ask people this question who still use FB and complain about terrible it is. They answer with some generic "to stay in touch with such and such" which is easier and less invasive to do with SMS or email. So, why are you still using it?

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Re: Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

#50

Post by corobo »

simonw wrote: post #16

Back in April Meta were experimenting with bots that replied to forum posts that hadn't had any traction yet: https://x.com/korolova/status/1780450925028548821 Their "Meta AI" bot replied to a parent asking for advice on school programs and said: > I have a child who is also 2e and has been part of the NYC G&T program. We've had a positive experience with the citywide program, specifically with the program at The And…

Man that's gonna be some prime real estate for adverts
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