Three Months with Sublime Text 2 • Hacker News Board

Re: Three Months with Sublime Text 2

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Post by calinet6 » Sun, Jul 15, 2012, 6:51 PM UTC

markokocic wrote: post #34

I really liked Sublime Text, but each time I try to search for some word in 20MB log file it reminds me how slow and unresponsive it is compared to Emacs. The closest to my ideal editor would be Emacs with visual appearance of ST2.

Hm, that's pretty odd, I found its handling of large files to be pretty fast for a GUI editor, and "slow and unresponsive" accurately describes the opposite of why I like Sublime.

Especially since it's always non-blocking, e.g. when you load a large file, a progress bar appears as it loads into memory but the rest of the editor continues to work without a hiccup. Quite nice.

Besides, it wasn't designed to search log files. That's what grep is for.

Re: Three Months with Sublime Text 2

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Post by pwelch » Sun, Jul 15, 2012, 6:51 PM UTC

I have been using ST2 for awhile and overall its pretty good. Although I still find myself opening Vim/Textmate a lot.

It may be archaic but my biggest issue is not being able to print from it. Along with coding I usually use my editor of choice for random things and sometimes this means I have to print something. No print option in ST2 is a slight annoyance.

Re: Three Months with Sublime Text 2

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Post by BerislavLopac » Sun, Jul 15, 2012, 6:57 PM UTC

I keep Sublime Text 2 as my generic text editor, but I still keep coming back to Komodo IDE (6, on Linux) for any code editing.

Re: Three Months with Sublime Text 2

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Post by calinet6 » Sun, Jul 15, 2012, 6:58 PM UTC

steverandy wrote: post #33

schappim wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would be me. The one feature it misses is multiple line editing by holding down option and dragging. Though the op's tips make me want to has another look. Cheers Marcus

You can do that with ST2.

To be fair, you can't drag a box selection like you can in TM.

However, Sublime's multiple-cursor support is far superior otherwise.

Re: Three Months with Sublime Text 2

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Post by pathdependent » Sun, Jul 15, 2012, 7:02 PM UTC

pwelch wrote: post #42

I have been using ST2 for awhile and overall its pretty good. Although I still find myself opening Vim/Textmate a lot. It may be archaic but my biggest issue is not being able to print from it. Along with coding I usually use my editor of choice for random things and sometimes this means I have to print something. No print option in ST2 is a slight annoyance.

I agree. When I start feeling stressed out about some code, I usually like to print it out and walk away from my computer to review it. Sitting outside with a copy of code that I cannot edit is very helpful sometimes.

Right now, I often will minimize (metaphorically) my ST2 editor; open up a copy of my code in gEdit; print it out; close gEdit; and, maximize ST2. That's not cool.

Re: Three Months with Sublime Text 2

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Post by jay_kyburz » Sun, Jul 15, 2012, 7:02 PM UTC

hemancuso wrote: post #36

The most consistent pushback against ST2 is how ugly and non-native folk find it. Lots of us get past that and really give it a chance, but I can't help but hope that Jon reads this and considers spending a couple weeks/months purely on styling, possibly with the help of a specialist. It doesn't improve the editor's functionality, but sales and adoption wise I think it would go a long way. Especially on the Mac. Spec…

Ugg, I disagree with most of most of your points. I like the sidebar simple, use finder/explorer if you want more. Text for find results and config is great.

Native ui is a huge amount of work to get right and maintain. Make the most of the beautiful text buffers I say!

Re: Three Months with Sublime Text 2

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Post by siodine » Sun, Jul 15, 2012, 7:09 PM UTC

hemancuso wrote: post #36

The most consistent pushback against ST2 is how ugly and non-native folk find it. Lots of us get past that and really give it a chance, but I can't help but hope that Jon reads this and considers spending a couple weeks/months purely on styling, possibly with the help of a specialist. It doesn't improve the editor's functionality, but sales and adoption wise I think it would go a long way. Especially on the Mac. Spec…

Search http://wbond.net/sublime_packages/community for "scheme" and "theme." https://github.com/cafarm/aqua-theme is what you're looking for, I think.

Re: Three Months with Sublime Text 2

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Post by LocalPCGuy » Sun, Jul 15, 2012, 7:13 PM UTC

pathdependent wrote: post #45

pwelch wrote: post #42

I have been using ST2 for awhile and overall its pretty good. Although I still find myself opening Vim/Textmate a lot. It may be archaic but my biggest issue is not being able to print from it. Along with coding I usually use my editor of choice for random things and sometimes this means I have to print something. No print option in ST2 is a slight annoyance.

I agree. When I start feeling stressed out about some code, I usually like to print it out and walk away from my computer to review it. Sitting outside with a copy of code that I cannot edit is very helpful sometimes. Right now, I often will minimize (metaphorically) my ST2 editor; open up a copy of my code in gEdit; print it out; close gEdit; and, maximize ST2. That's not cool.

There is Print to Html plugin, works pretty good:

https://github.com/joelpt/sublimetext-print-to-html

Re: Three Months with Sublime Text 2

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Post by Flow » Sun, Jul 15, 2012, 7:27 PM UTC

pathdependent wrote: post #39

cageface wrote: post #2

I read feature lists of editors like this and wonder why people just don't use a good IDE like IntelliJ. It does everything in this list and a lot more with minimal configuration.

Ignoring what other users have said (bloat, speed, noise, etc), I find that my code in an editor like ST2/TextMate/VIM ends up being substantially better and more maintainable than code written in a full-blow IDE. The full-blow IDE may mask code smell by making it easy to push on when things get ugly. For a trivial example, if you can't remember the name of some function you wrote in another module, it may be the cas…

I find that with a good IDE I can regard every name as a temporary name till I feel I clearly know what the best name would be.

A bit like a sketcher could draw a few lines and see where that leads.

Re: Three Months with Sublime Text 2

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Post by drivebyacct2 » Sun, Jul 15, 2012, 7:51 PM UTC

cageface wrote: post #2

I read feature lists of editors like this and wonder why people just don't use a good IDE like IntelliJ. It does everything in this list and a lot more with minimal configuration.

And to those of us that use it, it's obvious that you never have. Not trying to be dismissive, but I stand by that comment.

Ugh, it's painful to read this: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4247386 So much ignorant bias. Just try it. You don't know what you're talking about.