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Starting a Business at 60: My Father's Story

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Re: Starting a Business at 60: My Father's Story

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Post by profsummergig »

le-mark wrote: post #31

> He got my father a job at a milk plant, working 9-5. As a person who was raised on a small family dairy farm, when I read this I thought of cow milk processing like in the US; producing pasteurized milk, cheese, etc. But I have never seen milk or cheese in my limited exposure to Indian cuisine. So, maybe someone can enlighten me; what type of milk and how is it processed?

Family dairy farm could be involved in:

- straightforward milk harvesting.

- paneer (a type of cottage cheese, and an Indian staple, the principle source of protein for vegetarians. when vegetarian Indians [in India, not necessarily elsewhere] mention cheese, this is "ackshually" what they're talking about).

- yogurt (called "curd" or "curds" in India. a staple that's eaten raw, or added to curries while cooking). Fun fact: till a generation ago, most yogurt in India was made at home (or in the shop in the case of eating establishments) using starter that had been passed down for generations. (if one branch of the family got thicker, tastier yogurt than another branch [from their starter], the first branch would share their starter with the second branch -- if they had cordial relations.)

Re: Starting a Business at 60: My Father's Story

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Post by clauderoux »

sage76 wrote: post #15
james-bcn wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. As someone in my mid-50's I find the attitude to many people towards age really bizarre. I've just got back from trail running in the mountains. I'm fitter and healthier now than I was in my mid-30s, and haven't noticed any kind of cognitive decline at all, in fact I think I'm much more mentally able now because I read a lot and so have picked up a lot of knowledge. The only noticeable change is now I have to…

There's people who call themselves old at 30. I don't know if it is an excuse or what....but it's weird. I know a 50 year old personally who finished ironman triathlon.

I live in the French Alps and many of my friends are ardent trailers. Most of them are beyond 50 and they still do 160km trails regurlaly.

Re: Starting a Business at 60: My Father's Story

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Post by DougN7 »

Dalewyn wrote: post #33
ghxst wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't take this in bad faith but unless you're struggling with health related issues these limitations seem rather self imposed. Your second paragraph makes it sound like it's mental rather than physical, have you considered a mentor or life coach?

>these limitations seem rather self imposed. Simply put, aging is a bitch. I can't pull all-nighters or concentrate as hard as I could in my youth anymore, among many other things, and I'm more or less constantly exhausted simply due to the fierce but uncaring passage of time. >mental rather than physical No doubt it's more mental than physical, but it all comes down to aging one way or another. There's less wonder i…

It’s none of my business, but I say this out of hoping to help: you’re almost perfectly describing depression. You are depressed. I’ve been there, and still deal with it, but it can be helped with a variety of methods. I hope you will talk to a doctor or someone else about it. As an aside, I was surprised when someone told me I was depressed because I didn’t fit the model of depression that I had imagined. It turns out there are various degrees, and “low grade” depression sucks the energy and joy out of life. I wish I had discovered all of the above at the young age of 35 - life could have been better. Good luck.

Re: Starting a Business at 60: My Father's Story

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Post by tedggh »

clauderoux wrote: post #4

I reached 60 this year... So please give me a break with this idea that you are old at 60 in 2024. My mind is as sharp as it was 20 years ago... I have decided to train myself on LLMs after years of research in computational linguistics, the old way with grammar rules. And this experience in linguistics has proven so far quite rich as it gives me a different take on these incredible tools. This idea that you should d…

Aging and cognitive decline is real. I do notice I don’t respond as quickly as in my twenties when presented with problems that require logical reasoning and abstract pattern recognition for example. This is usually not a problem because most of the tasks I execute on a daily basis don’t require these skills. But it is evident that the decline is there and I think it’s important to recognize it. On the positive side at this stage of my professional and social life I believe experience is much more important to succeed than sharpness of mind. However experience is memory and memory also declines with age.

Re: Starting a Business at 60: My Father's Story

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Post by mistrial9 »

james-bcn wrote: post #16
sage76 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's people who call themselves old at 30. I don't know if it is an excuse or what....but it's weird. I know a 50 year old personally who finished ironman triathlon.

Yes I had someone the other day ask me if they were too old to study a subject at 35... I find it very weird. I think if you don't exercise, and you don't learn new things, you probably do start feeling old pretty quickly.

people have said directly on this board that if you are 35 and trying to program, you should consider retirement or changing lines of work

Re: Starting a Business at 60: My Father's Story

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Post by tagawa »

jjoe wrote: post #10

My old man is in his 80s. I run a small brick & mortar business. I figured I'd bring him in and keep him busy -- do him a favor and perhaps help slow down his cognitive decline. But it turns out I was the one who needed him around. He's meticulous with the bookkeeping and really good at crunching numbers with pen & paper. It dawned on me... they don't make people like this anymore...

He must be delighted to hear that.

Re: Starting a Business at 60: My Father's Story

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Post by lotsofpulp »

odux wrote: post #35
le-mark wrote: post #31

> He got my father a job at a milk plant, working 9-5. As a person who was raised on a small family dairy farm, when I read this I thought of cow milk processing like in the US; producing pasteurized milk, cheese, etc. But I have never seen milk or cheese in my limited exposure to Indian cuisine. So, maybe someone can enlighten me; what type of milk and how is it processed?

> I have never seen milk or cheese in my limited exposure to Indian cuisine. Indian cuisine is diary oriented to a point that while vegetarian food is super common, it is very difficult to find vegan food (especially North Indian food which is more common in the west). As a fun exercise try finding a local Indian restaurant and see how many of the dishes are vegetarian vs vegan. If you live in an area with a large In…

That comment flabbergasted me, lol. One of the few things popularly known about Hindus is many of them consider cows sacred. Although, technically, many in India will choose to use ox milk instead of cow milk since it is much richer/fattier (and I assume cheaper too).

Re: Starting a Business at 60: My Father's Story

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Post by lotsofpulp »

profsummergig wrote: post #41
le-mark wrote: post #31

> He got my father a job at a milk plant, working 9-5. As a person who was raised on a small family dairy farm, when I read this I thought of cow milk processing like in the US; producing pasteurized milk, cheese, etc. But I have never seen milk or cheese in my limited exposure to Indian cuisine. So, maybe someone can enlighten me; what type of milk and how is it processed?

Family dairy farm could be involved in: - straightforward milk harvesting. - paneer (a type of cottage cheese, and an Indian staple, the principle source of protein for vegetarians. when vegetarian Indians [in India, not necessarily elsewhere] mention cheese, this is "ackshually" what they're talking about). - yogurt (called "curd" or "curds" in India. a staple that's eaten raw, or added to curries while cooking). Fu…

The last point even made it to NYTimes:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/26/dining/homemade-yogurt-st...

Re: Starting a Business at 60: My Father's Story

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Post by Dalewyn »

DougN7 wrote: post #43
Dalewyn wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>these limitations seem rather self imposed. Simply put, aging is a bitch. I can't pull all-nighters or concentrate as hard as I could in my youth anymore, among many other things, and I'm more or less constantly exhausted simply due to the fierce but uncaring passage of time. >mental rather than physical No doubt it's more mental than physical, but it all comes down to aging one way or another. There's less wonder i…

It’s none of my business, but I say this out of hoping to help: you’re almost perfectly describing depression. You are depressed. I’ve been there, and still deal with it, but it can be helped with a variety of methods. I hope you will talk to a doctor or someone else about it. As an aside, I was surprised when someone told me I was depressed because I didn’t fit the model of depression that I had imagined. It turns o…

I think you're trying to read too much between the lines.

When I say I'm tired, I mean literally so. I have lots of joys in life even if it's not as wonderous anymore; lots of things I want to do. The problem is I don't have nearly enough energy nor time for them anymore as I get older. I have more responsibilities (things that need doing) as I get older and my body simply isn't as lively as when I was younger.

And that is only going to get even worse as time passes.

Aging is a bitch.

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