GM exits robotaxi market, will bring Cruise operations in house

Post by axus » Tue, Dec 10, 2024, 11:14 PM UTC

chrchr wrote: post #14

rgovostes wrote: post #3

> GM said in a statement that “... an increasingly competitive robotaxi market” were the reasons for the change. Isn't there basically Google/Waymo and then, seemingly much further behind, Tesla Cybertaxi, Amazon/Zoox, and Uber/Yandex? Cruise allegedly has one of the most sophisticated autonomous driving platforms, and GM's Super Cruise (if they share any tech) is comparable to Tesla FSD. Strange that they would bow…

It makes you wonder how much more effective U.S. auto makers might be without the regulation that requires them to sell through dealerships.

Post by jfoster » Tue, Dec 10, 2024, 11:23 PM UTC

schiffern wrote: post #39

standardUser wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ad hominems aside, it's easy to cheerlead Waymo since they stand alone as the nation's only commercial robotaxi service. They're expanding, their track record is exceptional, and having used them a handful of times they definitely leave an impression.

Waymo's strategy traded "do robotaxi early" in exchange for big penalties in cost-per-car (LIDAR) and cost-per-city (requirement for millimeter mapping). Yes it gets them early service in a small number of cities, but it dramatically kneecaps their ability to scale to the entire planet.

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Dec 10, 2024, 11:37 PM UTC

Post by reaperducer » Tue, Dec 10, 2024, 11:39 PM UTC

schiffern wrote: post #39

standardUser wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ad hominems aside, it's easy to cheerlead Waymo since they stand alone as the nation's only commercial robotaxi service. They're expanding, their track record is exceptional, and having used them a handful of times they definitely leave an impression.

Waymo's strategy traded "do robotaxi early" in exchange for big penalties in cost-per-car (LIDAR) and cost-per-city (requirement for millimeter mapping). Yes it gets them early service in a small number of cities, but it dramatically kneecaps their ability to scale to the entire planet.

Post by floxy » Tue, Dec 10, 2024, 11:54 PM UTC

throwaway48476 wrote: post #34

bobthepanda wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

there's a significantly lower volume of taxis sold than personal cars sold, and if taxis got bigger in the way the self driving utopians foresaw, it would significantly cut into their personal car sales.

Car sales in the US go down every year and have since the 90s, were past peak car. They need to find a new market.