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Re: Amazon Nova

#41

It's really amusing how bad Amazon is at writing and designing UI. For a company of their size and scope it's practically unforgivable. But they always get away with it.

Everyone I know who's worked at Amazon says Jeff Bezos has his hand in everything to the detriment of product design. I've heard multiple accounts of him seeing a WIP and asking for changes that compromise the product's MVP.

Is this why the everything besides the front page still looks like someone's first website from 1998?

Re: Amazon Nova

#43
post #37

It's really amusing how bad Amazon is at writing and designing UI. For a company of their size and scope it's practically unforgivable. But they always get away with it.

You say they "get away with it," but it makes more sense to conclude that UI design has a lot lower ROI than we assume it does as users.

Or that design instincts are backwards

Re: Amazon Nova

#44
post #37

It's really amusing how bad Amazon is at writing and designing UI. For a company of their size and scope it's practically unforgivable. But they always get away with it.

You say they "get away with it," but it makes more sense to conclude that UI design has a lot lower ROI than we assume it does as users.

You can't conclude that.

At best, you can conclude that outdated product design doesn't always ruin a business (clearly). But you can't conclude the inverse (that investing in modern product design doesn't ever help a business).

Re: Amazon Nova

#45

It's really amusing how bad Amazon is at writing and designing UI. For a company of their size and scope it's practically unforgivable. But they always get away with it.

Everyone I know who's worked at Amazon says Jeff Bezos has his hand in everything to the detriment of product design. I've heard multiple accounts of him seeing a WIP and asking for changes that compromise the product's MVP.

"Jeff Bezos is an infamous micro-manager. He micro-manages every single pixel of Amazon's retail site. He hired Larry Tesler, Apple's Chief Scientist and probably the very most famous and respected human-computer interaction expert in the entire world, and then ignored every goddamn thing Larry said for three years until Larry finally -- wisely -- left the company."

https://gist.github.com/kislayverma/d48b84db1ac5d737715e8319...

I read that post every couple of years or so.

Re: Amazon Nova

#46

It's really amusing how bad Amazon is at writing and designing UI. For a company of their size and scope it's practically unforgivable. But they always get away with it.

What do you think is comparable but better? I think you’re really seeing that they have a large organization with a lot of people working on different complex products, which makes major changes much harder to coordinate, and their market skews technical and prioritizes functionality higher than design so there isn’t a huge amount of pressure.

Re: Amazon Nova

#47
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You say they "get away with it," but it makes more sense to conclude that UI design has a lot lower ROI than we assume it does as users.

You can't conclude that. At best, you can conclude that outdated product design doesn't always ruin a business (clearly). But you can't conclude the inverse (that investing in modern product design doesn't ever help a business).

That's a great point. Further, there are many sizeable businesses built on top of AWS where they deliver the abstractions with compression that earns them their margin.

Case in point: tell me, from the point of view of the user, how many steps it takes to deploy a NextJS/React ecosystem website with Vercel and with AWS, start to finish.

Re: Amazon Nova

#48
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You say they "get away with it," but it makes more sense to conclude that UI design has a lot lower ROI than we assume it does as users.

You can't conclude that. At best, you can conclude that outdated product design doesn't always ruin a business (clearly). But you can't conclude the inverse (that investing in modern product design doesn't ever help a business).

I think they have plenty of competition in the cloud computing space. It seems fair to say that their strategy of de-prioritizing UI/UX in favor of getting features out the door more quickly and cheaply has benefitted them.

However, I don't think it's fair to say that this trade-off always wins out. Rather, they've carved out their own ecological niche and, for now, they're exploiting it well.

Re: Amazon Nova

#49
They missed a big opportunity by not offering eu-hosted versions.

Thats a big thing for complience. All LLM-providers reserve the right to save (up to 30days) and inspect/check prompts for their own complience.

However, this means that company data is potentionally sotred out-of-cloud. This is already problematic, even more so when the storage location is outside the EU.

Re: Amazon Nova

#50
> The model processes inputs up to 300K tokens in length [...] up to 30 minutes of video in a single request.

I wonder how fast it "glances" an entire 30 minute video and takes until the first returned token. Anyone wager a guess?

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