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Fugees Founder Pras Michél Speaks Out: 'I Never Wanted to Be a Spy'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Secret money is hard at a certain scale. Money is property rights and people have to believe your rights exist for them to actually exist. Elon Musk is not physically strong but simply the beneficiary of forces that have convinced the world’s mindless executors of one arbitrary thing in his favor, but could have just as easily convinced them of any arbitrary thing out of his favor. It’s better to have $5 million than…

Not true, there are edge cases. Some billionaires have lived very frugal lives - such as the founder of dollar stores. There was also a multi billionaire who lived middle class and gave away his whole fortune towards end of life

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Presumably the guy is distinctively not rich, or he wouldn't have gotten involved in such risky business to make money. Most of the hit songs he's been involved with are based one or more older songs, so he may not make much from royalties.

FTA: > Adding to his woes, the government seized roughly $80 million from him. That to me means that he was distinctively rich

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#43

I only managed to get part way through the article before some video overlay for a vodka brand kept trying to load and crashed the page. I tried again as the article was interesting/ same thing. Not so interested to try again. These moments of how realization of how bad some parts of the web are, reLly frustrate

I just turn on Reading Mode when that happens so I can at least read the content. I find that most websites don’t have circumventions for it (at least the Safari Reader Mode on my phone).

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#44

Celebrity and money are like a reality distortion field. I hope I never acquire either in large quantities - it does not seem like a desirable thing

Presumably the guy is distinctively not rich, or he wouldn't have gotten involved in such risky business to make money. Most of the hit songs he's been involved with are based one or more older songs, so he may not make much from royalties.

People don't get involved in criminality, in general, out of desperation, but because they enjoy the lifestyle. Hence the hundreds of successful e.g. rappers who end up in prison (or dead) even long after they had far more than enough money that any sense of wanting was far behind them.

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#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Presumably the guy is distinctively not rich, or he wouldn't have gotten involved in such risky business to make money. Most of the hit songs he's been involved with are based one or more older songs, so he may not make much from royalties.

People don't get involved in criminality, in general, out of desperation, but because they enjoy the lifestyle. Hence the hundreds of successful e.g. rappers who end up in prison (or dead) even long after they had far more than enough money that any sense of wanting was far behind them.

> People don't get involved in criminality, in general, out of desperation, but because they enjoy the lifestyle.

ugh. why do you suppose there is a two degrees of magnitude difference in crime between poor and rich nations? there is no connection to theft not sounding that bad when you are starving?

also, are you supposing all the gangs breaking into&robbing homes are actually bored millionaires?

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post #43

I only managed to get part way through the article before some video overlay for a vodka brand kept trying to load and crashed the page. I tried again as the article was interesting/ same thing. Not so interested to try again. These moments of how realization of how bad some parts of the web are, reLly frustrate

I just turn on Reading Mode when that happens so I can at least read the content. I find that most websites don’t have circumventions for it (at least the Safari Reader Mode on my phone).

That didn’t work on my iPhone.

Obviously the AI that wrote the ad code has become sentient and it is trying to break free.

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For anyone else confused by what actually happened, here is a summary compiled from various sources around the conviction and the related 1MDB scandal:

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Jho Low, a Malaysian financier, masterminded one of the largest embezzlement scandals in history through 1Malaysia Development Berhad (1MDB), a sovereign wealth fund intended to spur economic development. Over $4.5 billion was siphoned from the fund to finance a lavish lifestyle, high-profile investments, and extensive political influence campaigns. Fleeing justice in Malaysia, Low focused on cementing his power in the U.S., including efforts to influence the political landscape and suppress investigations into his crimes.

Pras Michel, a founding member of the hip-hop group Fugees, became entangled in Low's schemes, leading to his conviction on 10 criminal counts. Michel first met Low in 2006, and by 2012, he was a key player in Low’s efforts to use his ill-gotten wealth to influence U.S. politics. Low funneled $20 million to Michel to gain access to then-President Barack Obama’s re-election campaign. Knowing direct contributions from foreign nationals were illegal, Michel orchestrated a scheme using straw donors and political committees to route Low’s money into the campaign. Michel also used funds to buy seats at fundraising events and pressured wealthy acquaintances to participate.

By 2017, Michel’s involvement deepened as he acted on behalf of both Low and the Chinese government without registering as a foreign agent. In exchange for millions, Michel attempted to influence the Trump administration to drop the U.S. investigation into Low and to extradite Chinese dissident Miles Guo, a target of Beijing. These actions violated federal law, which requires registration for such foreign lobbying efforts.

Michel was also convicted of laundering millions of dollars tied to the 1MDB embezzlement and attempting to obstruct justice by pressuring straw donors to support his version of events during the investigation. The trial revealed Michel’s use of burner phones to contact witnesses, an act he later admitted was misguided. His defense argued that Michel was unaware of the legal boundaries and acted on bad advice from his attorney, including the use of artificial intelligence to craft his closing argument—a controversial decision.

The prosecution presented Michel as a knowing participant in a broader conspiracy to influence U.S. politics and aid foreign interests. Testimony from high-profile witnesses, including actor Leonardo DiCaprio and former Attorney General Jeff Sessions, underscored the scale of the scheme. Michel was ultimately convicted of conspiracy, campaign finance violations, acting as an unregistered foreign agent, money laundering, and witness tampering.

Re: Fugees Founder Pras Michél Speaks Out: 'I Never Wanted to Be a Spy'

#48
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Presumably the guy is distinctively not rich, or he wouldn't have gotten involved in such risky business to make money. Most of the hit songs he's been involved with are based one or more older songs, so he may not make much from royalties.

FTA: > Adding to his woes, the government seized roughly $80 million from him. That to me means that he was distinctively rich

I assumed that was money he earned from this spy business, but it's not really clear.

Re: Fugees Founder Pras Michél Speaks Out: 'I Never Wanted to Be a Spy'

#49

Celebrity and money are like a reality distortion field. I hope I never acquire either in large quantities - it does not seem like a desirable thing

If you happen to acquire large quantities of money please let me know, I can take that burden off you. ;-)

No, no, it is much too burdensome. Let me take this burden that it does not crush you, brother world2vec.

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#50

I'm a little confused about what he actually did. The article mostly speaks about making connections and introducing people to each other. But: > The concierge then hands him an envelope with orders to circle the block twice before receiving further instructions. What was in that envelope?

I think that the mention of the billions from Malaysia relates to the story covered in the "Billion Dollar Whale". I really recommend that book.

Many celebrities ended up involved, and it's a story that wouldn't be believed if it were fiction.

    At the center of the tale is Jho Low, the wild-spending financier who burst onto the scene in 2013 by backing “The Wolf of Wall Street,” Scorsese and DiCaprio’s $100 million look at financial fraud and bacchanalian excess. As Low’s influence in Hollywood grew, scores of celebrities partied on his private jet, drank his Cristal and accepted his lavish gifts (DiCaprio landed a $3.2 million Picasso and a $9 million Basquiat), at least until his elaborate embezzlement scheme unraveled and he became a fugitive.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1Malaysia_Development_Berhad_s...

https://www.amazon.ca/Billion-Dollar-Whale-Fooled-Hollywood/...

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