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And that’s important, because?
php.net runs the language's documentation. its not just a home page
This is a "kids these days" post. Maybe in a few years "The connection to the data center hosting the 1000 GPUs that run the LLM I ask how to do stuff is down, I can't get any work done!"
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php.net runs the language's documentation. its not just a home page
When latency and pageload was in seconds instead of milliseconds, downloading the documentation as a Windows Help file improved my efficiency. This is a "kids these days" post. Maybe in a few years "The connection to the data center hosting the 1000 GPUs that run the LLM I ask how to do stuff is down, I can't get any work done!"
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A week or two ago, the Haskell website was down for the greater part of a weekend. Digging through Hacker News history, Haskell.org was periodically reported down between 7 and 14 years ago. I suspect the volunteer resources behind language projects have half-hearted DevOps. So the surprising thing to me is not that php.net is down for hours, but that people care to report it.
Are you seriously comparing a niche language almost nobody uses vs the language that runs the majority of websites?
There is no company behind with sys admin 24h support.
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2xx - All good 3xx - Somethings could be better 4xx - You did something wrong 5xx - Server did something wrong Judging by this quick cheat-sheet I just created, this was not your fault :)
1xx - Rare novelty response code.
1xx response codes are crucial for things like WebSockets and HTTP/3 but they make the HTTP state machine more complex and many people writing manual HTTP requests are ill-prepared to deal with them.
Seemingly https://www.elektronauts.com/ (community for Elektron devices) is also down, coincident? AFAIK, Elektronauts is running Discourse, so Ruby, not PHP, so unlikely to be related that way. But, I'd wager a bet on some DNS misconfiguration at some CDN or likewise, that both are using :)
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php.net runs the language's documentation. its not just a home page
When latency and pageload was in seconds instead of milliseconds, downloading the documentation as a Windows Help file improved my efficiency. This is a "kids these days" post. Maybe in a few years "The connection to the data center hosting the 1000 GPUs that run the LLM I ask how to do stuff is down, I can't get any work done!"
I personally rely on the local documentation in my IDE because I can't be bothered to continuously update my docs with the latest errata and additions.
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We had been able to download PHP documentation, including useful users' notes, since the dawn of time... Prudence. Edit: In case this comes useful to some: I think this is a backup, https://docs.phplang.net/docs.php
Yes! I remember downloading this for working in an offline setup 20+ years ago. Still, maybe getting rid of the mirrors program 5 years ago had its downsides: https://derickrethans.nl/php-mirrors.html
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Are you seriously comparing a niche language almost nobody uses vs the language that runs the majority of websites?
If I understand it correctly the site is managed more like a hobby/private website. There is no company behind with sys admin 24h support.
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A week or two ago, the Haskell website was down for the greater part of a weekend. Digging through Hacker News history, Haskell.org was periodically reported down between 7 and 14 years ago. I suspect the volunteer resources behind language projects have half-hearted DevOps. So the surprising thing to me is not that php.net is down for hours, but that people care to report it.
Are you seriously comparing a niche language almost nobody uses vs the language that runs the majority of websites?
Hardly everyone uses it.
Jokes aside, I think you’ll be surprised to learn that the DevOps effort for most official programming language resources are surprisingly alike, regardless of their popularity.