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Re: Slouch: Posture panic in modern America

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Tall man living in Japan. I know how that feels. It sorta gets ingrained to always do it to some extend because if you mess up once you bang your head on the doorpost. Of course my own house doesn’t have that issue (you’d think), but the one toilet on the second floor… so even at home you can’t relax the vigilance.

the showers here especially have always made me slouch and I'm not especially tall at 175 cm! It was only after getting a shower where I could stand straight that I realized how much I'd been slouching over the last 17 years due to low shower heads.

That was a hard requirement for the house xD I can deal with ducking when I need to go to the toilet, but the shower absolutely has to be able to hit my head instead of my shoulders.

Re: Slouch: Posture panic in modern America

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My father was fairly tall, and had a slouch from always ducking (we lived in Africa, and he towered over most people, and was always banging his head). My mother was always nagging me to "sit up straight." These days, I have fairly good posture. Part of it, is because I take a 5K brisk walk, every morning, and that helps me to stay straight. Also, I am not that tall, so I don't need to keep ducking. I also use a stan…

I do feel that I should set the record straight.

When we lived in West Africa, he was unusually tall.

In East Africa, though, he had competition from the Masai and Watusi folks, who tended to be basketball-player tall.

Re: Slouch: Posture panic in modern America

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This is an area that appears to need some serious research. It seems entirely possible that "good posture" is an idea that comes from our monkey heritage where standing tall was a way to threaten other monkeys and gain status. Also standing up straight may be inherently unnatural, monkeys don't usually do it, and it might actually be the cause of lower back pain for all anyone knows. In other words, a posture fad may…

> Also standing up straight may be inherently unnatural, monkeys don't usually do it, and it might actually be the cause of lower back pain for all anyone knows.

My understanding is that this is well established fact. We are literally the ape that stood up. The resulting curved spine is fine for running around chasing water buffalo with the bros but poor for the kind of chronic load bearing and heavy use required to build and maintain civilization. People who subject their backs to chronic hard use generally wear them out at relatively young ages (middle age or so).

Re: Slouch: Posture panic in modern America

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200lb means a BMI of 25 if you're 6'3", which is like 3-4% of the male population in the US, unless you're taller than that it would probably be a better idea to lower your weight first.

Yes, Americans are fat, the average adult male is 200lb and the average height is 5'9 [0]. They'd be less so if everyone could squat their own weight, especially if that was in addition to the bar itself. Europeans are a bit lighter, about 10 pounds on average [1]. Sounds like we could all stand to lose weight before taking up lifting. [0] https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/body-measurements.htm [1] https://en.wikipedi…

You don’t need to loose weight before taking up lifting. Just adjust your expectations.

Re: Slouch: Posture panic in modern America

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This is a global problem. Many years ago I was in a zen retreat and the monks would literally whack us on the shoulders with a cane to sit up straight. The point was that we put pressure on our organs when we slouch. Straightening up helps our over all well-being and confidence.

Re: Slouch: Posture panic in modern America

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I'll admit to not reading the entire article here but I think that mostly people mistake posture issues for lack of exercise / being sedentary in general. If you work out a minimal amount and build some core strength / back muscles etc then you'll find that your posture naturally corrects itself whilst walking, that sitting in a chair for extended periods isn't as rough, etc.

I'll just provide a quick counter to this based on my own experience. A few years ago I had been in my best shape (daily exercise, cardio and weight lifting) and started experiencing some forearm pain. I thought it was just from over use from typing but i finally went to a physical therapist and found that the pain came from me hunching over on my computer and putting a lot of strain on my fore arms. The posture I to…

Get a long monitor arm and pull the monitor out from the desk. Mine sits almost flush with the desk, with my arms going underneath to the keyboard/mouse. This helped me remain sitting upright without leaning forward.

Re: Slouch: Posture panic in modern America

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post #47

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I'll just provide a quick counter to this based on my own experience. A few years ago I had been in my best shape (daily exercise, cardio and weight lifting) and started experiencing some forearm pain. I thought it was just from over use from typing but i finally went to a physical therapist and found that the pain came from me hunching over on my computer and putting a lot of strain on my fore arms. The posture I to…

Get a long monitor arm and pull the monitor out from the desk. Mine sits almost flush with the desk, with my arms going underneath to the keyboard/mouse. This helped me remain sitting upright without leaning forward.

Have you been to an optician recently? I was finding myself leaning in, then had a test earlier this year and, well, now I have a (very mild) prescription.

Re: Slouch: Posture panic in modern America

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I'll admit to not reading the entire article here but I think that mostly people mistake posture issues for lack of exercise / being sedentary in general. If you work out a minimal amount and build some core strength / back muscles etc then you'll find that your posture naturally corrects itself whilst walking, that sitting in a chair for extended periods isn't as rough, etc.

Lifting weights can certainly help, though people who focus on the bench press and neglect their upper back muscles may find that their posture actually gets worse, rather than improves. (Yet it's interesting, though hardly relevant for most of the population, that bulky upper back muscles can also look like bad posture. In extreme cases, a very well-developed upper back can even result in a mild hunchbacked appearan…

Another heuristic I use is you should not get a glance of your feet when standing tall. It's not like a device but it's free and you always have with you, you just need to remember to check.

Re: Slouch: Posture panic in modern America

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post #48
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Get a long monitor arm and pull the monitor out from the desk. Mine sits almost flush with the desk, with my arms going underneath to the keyboard/mouse. This helped me remain sitting upright without leaning forward.

Have you been to an optician recently? I was finding myself leaning in, then had a test earlier this year and, well, now I have a (very mild) prescription.

I've have been prescribed +.5 a long time ago, more than 15 years ago I think. Was warned that once you go forward you cannot go back. I am still not wearing glasses though my vision for small fonts has took a serious hit lately. Back then I had excruciating headaches but Flux fixed that so I chose to forego the prescription.
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