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As Ozempic turns consumers off processed foods, junk food industry fights back

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Re: As Ozempic turns consumers off processed foods, junk food industry fights back

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I love the excuse given for destroying the FDA, “they are corrupt and allow food coloring in front loops”, you ain’t seen nothing yet boy …

Some of has to do with Dairy products and milk destroyed by man due to regulation. Farms should not be raided for selling people real milk. The system has gone too far. Let people eat what they want. You want gov milk than buy it. Dont force it on everybody. Nanny state needs to scale it back.

You're raid link is a raid done by the PA police.

I can buy raw milk in California supermarkets. Complain to your state about it.

Re: As Ozempic turns consumers off processed foods, junk food industry fights back

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As a skinny guy in the US, is there a way that I can get an GLP-1 prescription? I want to see if it will decrease compulsions - substance use and trichotillomania.

Go to one of the online sellers, tell them you are fat, and one of their staff "doctors" will prescribe it.

Re: As Ozempic turns consumers off processed foods, junk food industry fights back

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Coca Cola has phosphoric acid in it so you don't puke from the fact that it contains unnatural amounts of sugar. Sugar itself, in its processed form, is quite unnatural and causes cravings and addiction. Our hunter-gatherer ancestors didn't get much sugar aside from fructose. Conclusion: sugar is mostly used by the industry because it's addictive.

Our hunter gatherer ancestors didn’t wear clothes, live in housing, use technology, or anything like we do today. This is literally the worst justification for anything. Even the “unprocessed” food we eat today, including plants or dead animal flesh is nothing like what the hunter gatherer ancestors ate.

The point is our internal metabolic processes are largely unchanged and were developed over many millennia of evolutionary adaptation, despite vast external changes in how we live in the past few centuries.

Re: As Ozempic turns consumers off processed foods, junk food industry fights back

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You give the game away with that analogy. We wouldn’t throw our hands up if private corporations were able to sell more and more dangerous guns to civilians (arms race). "Ah but what can we do, it's an arms race." We would make it illegal.

Actually we are explicitly throwing our hands up over more and more dangerous guns in civilian hands. We haven't made it illegal and all attempts at even moderate regulation are met with outrage over losing "freedom".

We as in Humans.

EDIT: But not even Americans just Throw Their Hands up over guns. Many, but not all! In fact many are very concerned about the lack of gun regulation.

Contrast with the food industry. There the status quo is to throw your hands up as long as people are making a profit. No matter how underhanded the tactics. Oh well if there is a demand then that is just their god-given right (to make a profit).

Re: As Ozempic turns consumers off processed foods, junk food industry fights back

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Processed sugar is sucrose, also half-glucose, half-fructose. Even though both are found separately in nature, it doesn't necessarily follow that their combination is just fine, especially in the volumes consumed in a typical Western diet. If sugar isn't addictive at all, why do so many people have cravings for sweets? Cravings are a major hallmark of addiction.

What do you think processed sugar is? It's literally just natural sugar purified. Almost everything in nature which contain sugar contains both fructose and glucose combined.

The list of problematic substances that are "just" purified natural matter is quite long. We aren't built to consume purified products endlessly.

Re: As Ozempic turns consumers off processed foods, junk food industry fights back

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What do you think processed sugar is? It's literally just natural sugar purified. Almost everything in nature which contain sugar contains both fructose and glucose combined.

The list of problematic substances that are "just" purified natural matter is quite long. We aren't built to consume purified products endlessly.

Did I claim sugar is not problematic?

Re: As Ozempic turns consumers off processed foods, junk food industry fights back

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What do you think processed sugar is? It's literally just natural sugar purified. Almost everything in nature which contain sugar contains both fructose and glucose combined.

The list of problematic substances that are "just" purified natural matter is quite long. We aren't built to consume purified products endlessly.

> We aren't built to consume purified products endlessly

At cell level this is just what we do.

Re: As Ozempic turns consumers off processed foods, junk food industry fights back

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I don't think there's anything sinister about using acid to make sugar taste better. You can put ungodly amount of sugar in your tea if you squeeze half a lemon into it and it's delicious.

tired of it already , feel like all this food bashing is the new “wokeness”. I enjoyed coca-cola in moderation for decades, so what ?

Nah, wokeness was zero-sum, interested in domination/submission and Power, and it sought to control others, particularly their speech. This is positive-sum -- your health comes at no-one else's expense, and indeed your example can quietly help others (and vice versa) -- and the only person you're really worried about controlling is yourself.
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